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I haven't followed this thread closely as I haven't been around much... but my initial thought is that organized religion is what is on the decline, not Spirituality, especially as a belief in God as Christ.  

Many simply want to be free to not condemn other belief systems and to live by less strict rules/laws and judgment of others.  And also to be able to believe both science and faith can coexist.  Christianity as an organized religion has become so rigid that many believers in Christ would rather not belong to one church, but instead to all. 

Or maybe it's just me, but that's my .02

posted by -blackcat on October 11, 2017 at 5:13 PM | link to this | reply

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Awesome indeed! You're 'attempting' to engage me in a 'true conversation' by telling me "This is one of the silliest things I've ever read"? A pretty poor 'attempt', especially in view of the fact that you don't know what you're talking about and haven't read much. As is also obvious when you call Islam "the latest religious 'fad'." And you want to teach me English as well? LOL...

I have good friends who haven't been to 'colleges and such', but they have more sense than blabbering about things they don't know. But hey, even at 59 it's not too late! Go and read...

And while this exchange is probably entertaining to others, it's getting to be a bore as far as I am concerned, so this is my last comment. And since this is my blog, it's also the last comment in this 'thread', period.

So I shall also bid you peace, and even reserve judgment on 'who you are'...

posted by Nautikos on October 9, 2017 at 8:56 AM | link to this | reply

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Awesome. What part of "attempt" did you not understand. For a guy that taught a university course, you're really not much on the English language. I'm still "attempting" to engage you in a true conversation, not just a back and forth, but this is actually giving me an insight into who you are. As for an "old chap", yeah I am..59, actually, so I've only been educated by life, not colleges and such. I am not well-read but I try to be. I am still in agreement with your assessment of christianity's decline, but for different reasons. Islam is just the latest religious "fad"  taking the world by storm and all religions are inherently dangerous. It is the purveyors of its faith that make it dangerous, more than the religion itself. Anyways, pearls and peace to you! 

posted by JessieE on October 9, 2017 at 6:02 AM | link to this | reply

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You feel insulted? So sorry, old chap. But I guess that's the risk one takes when one calls someone's post the silliest thing one has ever read, especially if one doesn't know what one is talking about, LOL...

posted by Nautikos on October 8, 2017 at 7:52 PM | link to this | reply

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Amazing! You've given university courses on Marx? or Marxism? Wow! Never fails to amaze me when people get called out on weird BS, right away we claim they are ignorant cuz they don't agree. One thing I will never claim is a greater knowledge than another, as I have no clue what they've gone through to get where they are. Your grasp of English leaves me astounded as I never said christianity is NOT on the decline. Islam and christianity are both 'religions', thus of the same coin, and like a coin, each side has its differences but nonetheless, the same plane. WTF is an 'Atheist christian'? Is that like 'military intelligence'? Ignorance and disagreement are not equals. All you did was attempt to insult without presentation of a logical progression of facts to state your case. Puerile is such an interesting word, isn't it? 

posted by JessieE on October 8, 2017 at 6:13 PM | link to this | reply

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The silliest thing you've ever read? On what grounds exactly? Are you denying that Christianity is declining? To deny that would simply demonstrate your ignorance, an ignorance even more evident when you declare 'Islam and christianity are of the same coin.' That statement alone shows you understand neither!

And the other silliness of yours is that you're addressing me as though I were a Christian, which I sam not - I am an atheist who sometimes calls himself an 'Atheist Christian' because he subscribes to some of Christianity's tenets. And I certainly don't insist that 'all follow my beliefs' - I really don't have many. But I am also a serious student of Islam, which is why I understand it and recognize the threat it represents.

And you want to talk Marx? I have given university courses on Marx...

On the whole, I find your comment puerile...

posted by Nautikos on October 8, 2017 at 11:24 AM | link to this | reply

Thank you Naut, My mother said they always curtsied to the rector when they were small girls. 

posted by C_C_T on October 8, 2017 at 11:10 AM | link to this | reply


This is one of the silliest things I've ever read. Reminds me of kids when they refuse to admit they did something wrong or those times when I went to DWI court and all I hear is the offender's lawyers saying BS and none of them taking responsibility for the problem. It's everyone else, it isn't them! You folks are the same! The decline of christianity is due to their arrogance. It's strange how people people will quote the bible out of context to further their agenda. Islam and christianity are of the same coin. Yours isn't any better than theirs. Your faith isn't greater than anothers just because you believe it is. It's your insistence that all follow your beliefs, your tenets, that is the cause of decline. The Mormons think they are right..btw, do you realize that is still one of THE fastest growing religions? Guess not, you're too worried about islam to worry about those guys. What about the Jehovah Witness, or Hinduism or religion in general. Just cuz folks don't practice the same faith as you, doesn't make them evil. I'm sure them folks see you as evil, too. "Religion is the opium of the masses" by Karl Marx is very true. You need religion to justify the harshness of life but you can also live without it. What you can't live without is a moral code, thus the Golden Rules are so much better than religion. Religion, unfortunately, breeds hatred of others through extremists that wish to claim theirs is the only true path! Peace

posted by JessieE on October 8, 2017 at 8:53 AM | link to this | reply

A very interesting read with lots of diverse comments...

Pat brings up a great point as to what could be causing some decline. I look at it as a perception that is not really practiced by those who feel that way. I know plenty of judgmental atheists, agnostics and spiritual people. All one has to do is read the comments to any online news article nowadays to see that being judgmental is an innate human characteritic.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on October 8, 2017 at 8:14 AM | link to this | reply


Thanks for addressing our comments. Once again, you and I find accord on crucial subjects.  But, have youe ears been burning or itching, as they say?  That is because I mentioned you in my latest post on The Armed Citizen.  You should go scratch the itch, LOL.  Cheers

posted by GoldenMean on October 8, 2017 at 7:24 AM | link to this | reply


Yes, I always enjoy 'Response to Comments Days.' Do continue. Thank you. 

posted by RPresta on October 7, 2017 at 9:40 PM | link to this | reply

thanks for responding. 

posted by Kabu on October 7, 2017 at 6:47 PM | link to this | reply

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