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I am not much concerned about AI,  despite your apparent panic.  Despite your posts, and despite all the sensationsal Hollywood movies about AI, such as the Terminator series (which I enjoyed immensely), and several others.......  I think that AI is severely limited, because it has no spirit.  It has no potential to survive it's own death,  to survive the destruction of all the circuits and chips where it dwells...... the destruction of the technology it depends upon to exist.  Humans and souls do not need technology to exist.  We have been demonstrating that for millions of years on this earth, if anyone has been paying attention. The life on this planet, we and our ancestors, going back hundreds of millions of years, have survived several 'extinction events',  that would have destroyed any AI that existed at the time, and we, the biological/spiritual life forms, are still here,  and always advancing ourselves to the next level, against all odds. Can you offer any explanation for that?  

Consider this: even if the planet Earth were destroyed tomorrow, blown into tiny bits of molten rock, by some cosmic catastrophe, all humans and all AI would be completely obliterated.  But the day after tomorrow,  the souls of the humans would survive and be seeking a new life, on another planet, while the AI would be completely DESTROYED, with no hope of revival. 

But, of course, you will not concede to this, because you are an atheist/ agnostic.  I would suggest that you move toward the 'agnostic' side of the scale, on this issue..... 'agnostic' meaning 'we do not know'.  Even though I do know, through my faith, and my research of such issues.....  Cheers 

 

posted by GoldenMean on August 23, 2017 at 8:26 PM | link to this | reply

I just bought myself a smart phone...not an expensive one but the durn thing is certainly smarter than what I am and even when i switch the power off it will come alive and peep or something...and that is a nothing piece of medern equipment. Still I get the feeling as I learn about it, it is learning about me.

posted by Kabu on August 23, 2017 at 10:04 AM | link to this | reply

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I mean more in terms of the depths now that I think about it.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on August 23, 2017 at 8:16 AM | link to this | reply

That is a great question of trying to figure out who is responsible. I do not feel that we know the ramifications yet of what AI will bring.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on August 23, 2017 at 8:16 AM | link to this | reply

Nautikos

Naut, you're welcome! You have raised many salient points, not only regarding definition of AI, but also the direction of research, regulation and ethics concerning multiple forms of AI; too many to address in a Comment Response, but never-the-less, points of which we should all be made aware. My personal thought is that at some point, in the areas of R & D, regulation, and especially ethics, committees may be formed to assess a Needs basis as we move forward. The technical, scientific and socio-scientific communities will evaluate and probably form polarized groups, ultimately arrive at varying, mutable solution(s); however, legislative committees will do likewise in concert with the economic community. You know who wins in that scenario, and it ain't the scientists. Now may be a good time to begin the process. Yep, I love Science.

posted by RPresta on August 22, 2017 at 4:52 PM | link to this | reply

Great debate, well explained. Thanks, Naut.

posted by Pat_B on August 22, 2017 at 3:09 PM | link to this | reply

I like -blackcat's comment here.  I do believe she is right.  If she is not completely right, then we are going to really begin worrying and perhaps hiding (except, where would one go to hide without being ferreted out by them?)

posted by TAPS. on August 22, 2017 at 3:02 PM | link to this | reply

Machines cannot think for themselves.  They can only think in a series of programmable if/then statements.  They will never be able to think in subjective terms (if not already pre-programmed with a decision based on every circumstance).  That is not true thought.  

posted by -blackcat on August 22, 2017 at 1:46 PM | link to this | reply

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