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Very good
This entry was (allow me shouting it to the world) GREAT!
You see, it's very interesting to read your oppinion on good and evil.
But unfortunately, I only had the first part till now. But I will go for the second part. 👏

posted by kasperhoe on June 14, 2017 at 1:36 PM | link to this | reply

Nautikos

Wiley was here pard!!

posted by WileyJohn on June 9, 2017 at 6:58 PM | link to this | reply

Trump calling anyone "evil losers" just shows how juvenile he is.  

This was not the point... but I liked your reference to Math as the only subject with absolutes... because you reminded me why I always loved math, for there is the only place where you will find problems that always have an exact solution.   I may need to post on this.  :)

posted by -blackcat on June 8, 2017 at 4:06 PM | link to this | reply

To sum it up, evil is in the eye of the beholder, as are many other things, or am I way off base?

posted by adnohr on June 8, 2017 at 12:21 AM | link to this | reply

It kind of boggles the mind trying to think on this subject and come up with what one considers it to be--outside of the realm of religion.  I keep reverting back to the Holy Bible, and I have no idea where other people come up with their conclusions.  Everyone seems to have their own ideas about what is evil and what is good, whether they are religious or not.

posted by TAPS. on June 7, 2017 at 4:53 PM | link to this | reply

Interesting veiwpoint Naut.One would expect it to be easier to be evil if one is downtrodden as it is to be benevolent if one has everything. Not always the case.

 

posted by C_C_T on June 7, 2017 at 10:40 AM | link to this | reply

A very interesting entry on the topic of evil. It is something many people are trying to define and that has different viewpoints.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on June 7, 2017 at 7:24 AM | link to this | reply

Interesting blog, Naut. I have thought along these lines myself and

it is so frustrating to never quite be able to settle the question once and for all. In your last few lines you mention Trump and his dismissive blurts. What a difference it would make in this world if he could spend a bit of time and thought on the very theories you have addressed here. Unfortunately I don't see that as within the realm of the possible.

p.s. I saw a bit on my home page news that his son Eric has declared that dems are not even people. Chilling prospect that one of these days sonny boy will try to take over the old man's job and live for a few years at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.  Brrr.

posted by Pat_B on June 7, 2017 at 4:23 AM | link to this | reply

Naut

RP has a great point,  about  'a rose by any other name'......  and I fear that you have opened up the proverbial can of worms about evil,  for it is a many-faceted subject.  This particular can of 'evil' worms is overflowing,  and the  worms are spilling all over the floor!  It will take me a few days to respond properly. 

But for now,  I completely agree with your description of evil as irredeemable.  I have been trying to accomplish the same thing by describing evil as predatory.  So just go back and re-read everything I have written about 'evil',  and substitute your word 'irredeemable'.  

I would think it goes without saying,  and the average educated person understands,  that some people we deem as evil consider themselves to be good.  In the American Civil War,  both the North and South were praying fervently to God,  that their evil enemy would be defeated,  and their soldiers would be protected.  The Muslims also,  as you point out,  believe they are following the Absolute Good of Allah, which is in reality a dogma of domination,  inspired by the monster Mohammed.  This just testifies to the genius of evil,  that its engineers  (human or otherwise)  can craft an argument that will appeal to so many people,  that it actually now threatens to take over the entire world.

I had hoped that you would address my specific definition of evil,  which was thus:

Specifically, evil is the intentional harming of others or their property; the physical or mental abuse of others; or the withholding of freedom, knowledge, or resources from others; all for selfish or irrational reasons, without legal or moral justification.

Much more to follow.......

posted by GoldenMean on June 7, 2017 at 3:18 AM | link to this | reply

Nautikos

I enjoyed reading your post, and noticed Meriam-Webster has what appear to be non-religious definitions of the word 'evil.' Perhaps Shakespeare may have a good basic idea, ...'What's in a name? That which we call a rose would by any other name...' (I can't bring myself to write the rest in reference to evil; reference to a rose is hard enough...) :) By whichever name, it is something not good, but your post gave me pause for consideration and I almost felt like having a discussion! LOL. 

posted by RPresta on June 6, 2017 at 7:56 PM | link to this | reply

re your comment at my post...dear Naut. I know what you are saying and it is the mistakes we always make. Throw money and hope it works and of course the way it is set up ..well it had to fail. money always corrupts, and divides. people resent paying and those that gets their hands on it keep it.

posted by Kabu on June 6, 2017 at 7:00 PM | link to this | reply

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