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Sis Presta

I mixed up and replied to some in your blog. How I yearn your rains, it hovering on 113F here. But then aren't we tough desert people? Ha ha. It is the princely state of Rajasthan, raja is king, sthaan is place. The ancients were the proud warrior breed, the elegance and bravery can be seen on their handsom tall and bony structured ambience. Just to feed you on snippets for the sun.

posted by anibanerjee on May 8, 2017 at 12:54 AM | link to this | reply

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Aha, so I understand more now. Thank you, guru bhai or is it bhai guru? And what about upper case and lower case? LOL! 

posted by RPresta on May 7, 2017 at 11:59 PM | link to this | reply

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Thank you, bhai. I love learning this new terminology and words in Hindi.

posted by RPresta on May 7, 2017 at 11:57 PM | link to this | reply

Re: sis sam

Seeing you after quite a while. He did have his negative side and quite a chequered one at that. But his brilliance stood apart. They all come in varieties; human beings after all. Thank you for your fine encouragements. 

posted by anibanerjee on May 7, 2017 at 9:06 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Annicita

Good that you find the picture inspiring. Thanks. 

posted by anibanerjee on May 7, 2017 at 9:02 PM | link to this | reply

A truly magnificent poem and equally magnificent explanation! I love his work but am not a fan per se due to his attitude toward women. Many of his songs, sonnets and elegies belittle women. They are depicted as ugly, inconstant and deceitful! However there are poems of his as well that portray women for intellectual and emotional vitality! But, there's more negative than positive! Your Sis 

posted by sam444 on May 7, 2017 at 2:06 PM | link to this | reply

the picture is inspiring

posted by Annicita on May 7, 2017 at 12:36 PM | link to this | reply

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In India, we have a separate name for all relatives as to their address. Likewise, sil, mil, uncle, aunt, are not so exact, is it father's sis, or mom's, the names are separate. For the relation's address to be correctly defined there are dozens of addresses. These are especially known to ladies, because they have to deal with all kinds of relations. 

posted by anibanerjee on May 6, 2017 at 10:32 PM | link to this | reply

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Thank you my sis, Presta. This, I am going to cherish as a treasure. Bhai is denoted for  younger bro, whereas bhaiya for the elder. Similarly, behen is for younges sis, and didi for elder. By that token you are my didi and I your bhai. I'll share with you whatever I can within my capability.

posted by anibanerjee on May 6, 2017 at 10:23 PM | link to this | reply

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As I am honored to be you shisya, Guru Bhai, or is it Guru Bhaiyya/guru bhaiyya? Yes, you certainly may address me as big sis. I think what you have said about learning, is simply beautifully poetic, gathering droplets... Let it rain benevolent knowledge upon me then.LOL! I need all the help I can get. My thanks, brother. Bhai/bhaiyya. Guru. 

posted by RPresta on May 6, 2017 at 9:52 PM | link to this | reply

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And so am I honoured to be your guru bhai. It must, I surmise, have been there in the offing. Can I address you as my big sis, Presta? i am so glad that my posts have raised your appetite to learn more of Donne's poems. I can see you as one in my class. Many thanks, SisPres, Lol To be gathering droplets of knowledge is to be like being  out-in-the-open in a raining benevolence. I

posted by anibanerjee on May 6, 2017 at 1:07 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Doesn't Shisya, sound like sister, which you are to me, Presta.

The word for Bro is Bhai, or better, Bhaiyya. In Hindi 'Shiksa' means 'education'.

posted by anibanerjee on May 6, 2017 at 12:55 AM | link to this | reply

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I'd be pleased and honored to be a Shisya of yours, Guru Aba. And Donne is one person whom I would enjoy learning more about. So many, so much to know, I can only gather droplets of knowledge. Thank you. 

posted by RPresta on May 6, 2017 at 12:55 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Doesn't Shisya, sound like sister, which you are to me, Presta.

Yes, it does sound like that. Thank you. What's the word for brother? I first thought you had written "Shiksa," a Yiddish word. :) It's funny because that almost also could fit me. 

posted by RPresta on May 6, 2017 at 12:49 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Kabu

You add oxygen to my blood by becoming breathless at my 'brilliance', hahaha... Just jokin', you are of course one of my biggest sources of encouragement. Thank you ma'am so very much you too. 

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:54 PM | link to this | reply

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Yes, my Presta dear, you sure know much better than the phone predictor's skills of punctuation, Lol n that was so sweet! 

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:49 PM | link to this | reply

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Thanks for reading and commenting. I'm glad my piece on Donne made you happy. 

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:42 PM | link to this | reply

Re: very true, FSI

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM | link to this | reply

Re: FSI

That was a good one, GM. 

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:39 PM | link to this | reply

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Dear GM, I have always felt a special affinity for rogues and heretics. John Dryden, to some degree as an insouciant supporter of Charles Ii, Francis Bacon the brilliant essayist as a shrewd and self-aggrandising politician, to some extent Milton too, who, the critic Ben Jonson held as one big reason Gid, Joan of Arc - a heretic in GB Shaw's book by the same title, and there are numerous others, so I like you too .

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:37 PM | link to this | reply

Re: C C T

it was indeed a powerful experience and experiment for Donne. Yes, powerful enough to cast fear in the minds of his contemporaries. Thanks, Sir. 

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:20 PM | link to this | reply

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it was indeed a powerful experience and experiment for Donne. Yes, powerful enough to cast fear in the minds of his contemporaries. Thanks, Sir. 

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:20 PM | link to this | reply

Doesn't Shisya, sound like sister, which you are to me, Presta.

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:17 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Hello, Shisya (a student) Presta

He was a brilliant metaphysical poet of the seventeenth century. If you have liked him so much, can I give some more of his poems. Each has a twist of his thoughts that are unique only to him. Like for example, holding his beloved's hand parleying with each other without talking, and Valediction, forbidding mourning. I quite enjoy the variety and his flights of thoughts, amalgamating with the newer adolescenct scientific discoveries of his time. In case I do, I'm sure you would like these too. Thanks, I'd like to fancy myself as a guru, but then this is my profession and pleasure, too. 

posted by anibanerjee on May 5, 2017 at 9:15 PM | link to this | reply

how well you descibe and explain every word in a poem. truly you leave me breathless. I mean I 'got' the poem but could never relay to another as you have here. i so admire your brilliance.

I felt so sad for the poet that he does not have my gentle Faith. So sad that he is overpowered by the doctrine of a church determined to keep people within it's power with fear. My God is a God of love and forgiveness who created me knowing full well I would transgress and be filled at times with doubts.

posted by Kabu on May 5, 2017 at 12:38 PM | link to this | reply

FSI

That was a quick response to my comment....  are you saying that John Donne was not a rogue and heretic like me,  or that I am not a poet like John Donne??  On the latter point,  you are right on!!! 

posted by GoldenMean on May 5, 2017 at 9:30 AM | link to this | reply

Donne wrote so eloquently a beautiful reminder of the gift that His grace truly is.

posted by Amanda__ on May 5, 2017 at 6:17 AM | link to this | reply

There will never be another like John Donne.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on May 5, 2017 at 5:29 AM | link to this | reply

Anib

A passionate poem,  indeed.  I never heard of John Donne,  so I read up on him.  He was quite a rogue,  marrying secretly and being put in prison for it,  for a while.  Even the minister who did the ceremony was put in prison,  LOL.  Don wrote a heretical poem in defense of suicide.  He was lucky he did not catch the attention of an Inquisitor,  if any were still around at that time.  He was definitely a rogue and a heretic.....  like me......  so I like him!!  Cheers

posted by GoldenMean on May 5, 2017 at 5:21 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Aba

Excuse phone predictor's errors in punctuation. :) I do know better. lol. 

posted by RPresta on May 5, 2017 at 12:30 AM | link to this | reply

Aba

Oh, how I did enjoy reading all of your post! Donne is so fascinating to me, so talented. But first, to me, the 'three-person'd God,' I took to mean by Donne, the Trinity Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Being brought up a Catholic, he would have considered this aspect of Christianity. His mind, so bright, so tormented, was surely a beacon in its day. His life is interesting; his work, to me, still speaks it's relevance. This is just an example of a man bright enough to know he doesn't know all he would like, and is deeply troubled by that. His poetry and skill are wonderful. Thank you, Guru Aba, for allowing us to renember to learn. 

posted by RPresta on May 5, 2017 at 12:28 AM | link to this | reply

Yet again a good explanation. The poem is enough to cast fear into the poor souls who read it at that time. I suppose one had to qualify human attributes as those of a God for a reader of that time to feel a subtle closeness to such a powerful experience.  

posted by C_C_T on May 5, 2017 at 12:26 AM | link to this | reply

Aba

Oh, how I did enjoy reading all of your post. Donne is so fascinating to me. But first, to me, the 'three-personed God' I took to mean 

posted by RPresta on May 5, 2017 at 12:18 AM | link to this | reply

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