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Re: Katray2

My apologies for not responding sooner. One hazard of Blogit is that comments can get lost in one's shuffle. It would be nice if Blogit had a notification system to email or text us when we receive a comment. I digress.

I do not see any conspiracy with the black pope. I mean it in an influential sense.

Yes, Islam has over 1 billion adherents, and there is lots of variance within it. With any sort of human group, our views of those people are guided by the one percent.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on August 8, 2016 at 5:45 AM | link to this | reply

FSI, the Jesuit / "Black Pope" influence on the papacy has the look and feel of unfounded conspiracy theory. Don't you mean extremism is unpopular as Islam has over 1 billion adherents..And good reminder about Benedict's Islam comments - wonder if this blog eviscerated him for overstepping religious boundaries?

posted by Katray2 on August 3, 2016 at 6:39 AM | link to this | reply

I don't know enough about this to comment Naut. You are a Historian you should be able to judge the future by studying the past.

posted by C_C_T on August 2, 2016 at 6:33 AM | link to this | reply

I was pondering on your post, and now find myself doing the same for FSI's comment.

posted by adnohr on August 1, 2016 at 10:15 PM | link to this | reply

Nautikos

I wish I could comment with a modicum of intelligence. I know not the true workings of the Vatican. 

posted by Sea_Gypsy on August 1, 2016 at 8:34 PM | link to this | reply

I can understand picking someone due to geography. As an American, I am used to seeing vice presidents selected due to geography or trying to appeal to another demographic. In this election, I feel the vice presidents would be more competent as president than the people running for president.

I am not sure what is going through Francis's head that causes him to either be oblivious to Islam or to ignore its problems.

I wonder if he is doing that because Benedict spoke out against Islam only to end up apologizing when pressured. If that is the case, he is not doing his job. His job is to have the courage to speak up when something is not popular.

Here could be another angle. He is a Jesuit, and Jesuits tend to defer to the Superior General, nicknamed the Black Pope. I am not sure if Adolpho Nicolas has an affinity for Islam that the Pope is aiming for.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on August 1, 2016 at 6:07 PM | link to this | reply

Only God knows (my answer to your last question).
Very interesting post.  And, I do believe that God knows, is totally in charge of what is going on in our world, and is working his plan and purpose for our good.  I hope it doesn't take 400+ years like it did for the Israelites to escape bondage from Egypt.

posted by TAPS. on August 1, 2016 at 12:57 PM | link to this | reply

Nautikos

Trump write this?

"........not well enough to realize that he is an ignoramus, a fool, an idiot or, to give him the benefit of the doubt, suffers from the first signs of senile dementia. "

He is not as you describe him my friend is all I want to say.

 

posted by WileyJohn on August 1, 2016 at 12:10 PM | link to this | reply

Nautikos

This is an incredibly good post. Yes the man claiming to be a man of God while he rejects the truth is vile. No this Pope is not a misfit, wrong choice He IS simply what I was talking about yesterday. He is the pope to take us into the Great Tribulation or to prepare for the type of Pope who will be one of the last three rulers. This prophetic statement was made over 2,000 ears ago and as all those recorded in the Holy Bible are true. The Jews did not believe Christ's coming and there is scientific proof of his living dying and being resurected again. Yes Islam is a religion of anger, death and anything that fits the negative happening of the day. Hoping to control the world and kill all who do not agree. I love your posts.

 

posted by Justi on August 1, 2016 at 9:41 AM | link to this | reply

Also, from what I'm reading, there has been what I would call self reform

of Islamic extremism going on in Egypt and in particular, at Al-Azhar University and by the grand imam you reference. Self reform is usually much more sincere than forced reform.  The Pope is speaking and acting from a well of love and respect for all humanity and thusly trying to clarify the differences beween the hatred and violence of any and all extremism and religion.

posted by Katray2 on August 1, 2016 at 8:49 AM | link to this | reply

I'm curious if everyone who believes anything other than what you think

about Islam deserves to be treated with name calling and judgmental decrees - are you a doctor who has diagnosed the Pope? I was born Catholic but am not a Catholic; have plenty of arguments with the Church, but I can't understand why being rude and disrespectful is a good strategy, even ignoring the fact that doing so speaks volumes about a person's grasp of human unity and what is needed for progress toward peace. In my opinion, your editorials greatly distract from your knowledge sharing...I know you have a low opinion of me and don't care what I think but I'm saying it anyway, lol.

posted by Katray2 on August 1, 2016 at 8:13 AM | link to this | reply

Not a Catholic. Not even churched. But I love Pope Francis and his

emphasis on acceptance, peace and hope. He is benign in a hostile world, and it is my hope that, as I read somewhere, "a soft answer turneth away wrath."

posted by Pat_B on August 1, 2016 at 8:04 AM | link to this | reply