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Then you do not see the pattern
Just because you openly say one thing, does not mean that you are teaching that. You are creating confusion by telling children it is wrong to think differently and that those who do not agree with you are wrong, but at the same time tell them that everyone needs to be saved and the only way of salvation is your beliefs. They then have to confront the idea that there are people out there who are different, but will not change their ways. It then turns into the idea of how do you 'fix' those who do not agree with you. After trying to talk to them, which will never work, you go to the only logical step, which is force. This leads to fighting and war.
This is the blindness of religion and has created much more violence than anything else in the history of mankind.
If you teach them violence or not, it is the creation of contradicting ideas that leads to violence. History is full of proof of this.
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 28, 2003 at 12:26 PM
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But if my idea is not to fight, then I do not see myself getting into
fighting and hating others for having different beliefs.
posted by
TARZANA
on December 28, 2003 at 11:34 AM
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I do not think you see my point
There are attitudes that lead to bigger things. By defending the idea that one should only tolerate one's own kind, you then get to the idea of hating others because they do not believe as you do, which then takes us into fighting over those differences, which leads to millions being killed all over nothing.
All because of a simple idea of not wanting your children to be exposed to other's ideas.
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 28, 2003 at 11:08 AM
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I always tell my children not to fight.
posted by
TARZANA
on December 28, 2003 at 10:59 AM
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So then
You agree with all the fighting in the Middle East?
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 28, 2003 at 10:53 AM
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Hmmm.... Well, if you're talking about a Jew, then I would say that the
Jewish mother would teach her Jewish young to keep to the safety of Jewish ways, if she were a devout Jew. It is a comparison of all the different creatures of the world to all the different peoples of the world. The natural thing is for the mother to teach the young to beware of strangers.
posted by
TARZANA
on December 28, 2003 at 10:42 AM
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Ifyou-please
So those who are Jewish are immoral?
And we should just let them all die because that will make the world a better place?
So you are defending the idea of killing off millions of peoples just to get rid of a group that does not share your same values?
And you are not going to call this hate, because it is justified by your beleifs?
Maybe you are only addressing one statement in my post and not the post as a whole. Although the whole moral issue is a post in and of itself for the future. But just defending one point does not justify the rest. Yet that is the way of religion. Ignore what you do not like and defend the other parts that end up defending the ideas that lead to the hate. A destructive pattern.
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 28, 2003 at 10:37 AM
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All I can think is that if a mother ground squirrel teaches her young to beware the coyote, she is only doing what will save their lives. That is the way with hating immorality.
posted by
TARZANA
on December 28, 2003 at 10:26 AM
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