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Re: God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham

Thought provoking..Thank you.

posted by Katray2 on March 29, 2012 at 7:51 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Interesting dialogue below..couldn't help leave another comment...

Very wise, Ash. Thank you.

posted by Katray2 on March 29, 2012 at 7:50 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Katray 2

Wow, I agree, WileyFriend - well said!

posted by Katray2 on March 29, 2012 at 7:50 AM | link to this | reply

God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham

John the Baptist would have a field day with that crew.

No, they are not Christian, nor are they religious. They are yet another political organization which is calling itself "Christian" to gain some measure of respectability, which is kind of ironic when you consider the original usage and users of that word.

 

posted by cpklapper on March 29, 2012 at 4:07 AM | link to this | reply

Interesting dialogue below..couldn't help leave another comment...

Good people and bad people are everywhere, in every religion / nation / race / gender, etc. One's ability to cultivate goodness within oneself, to correctly perceive good & bad in others, and to still be empathetic to all, is a life-long personal virtue worth pursuing for everyone, despite one's past.

posted by ash_pradhan on March 28, 2012 at 9:05 PM | link to this | reply

Katray 2

I'm at the place that I think all religions harbor some kind of a collective evil caused by mankind itself.

posted by WileyJohn on March 28, 2012 at 6:34 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: I agree Sam.

My point is that not all Christians or Muslims are extremist; both religions have those who use/abuse religious text to justify hatred and violence. I think the majority of believers just want to live their lives in peace and progress.

posted by Katray2 on March 28, 2012 at 6:10 PM | link to this | reply

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Perhaps shield would have been a better word for each group! It is the innocent who pay the greatest price! In my opinion neither group is right! sam 

posted by sam444 on March 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM | link to this | reply

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They're not in hiding as far as I can tell, Sam. Seems the innocent always pay the heaviest price for agendas of extremists and the power hungry..

posted by Katray2 on March 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM | link to this | reply

So it seems they hide among the Christians like Hamas does in Palestine! sam 

posted by sam444 on March 28, 2012 at 3:20 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Katray2 - I took time to read the article you link to

I know there are several around here; through extended family's acquaintances and/or neighbors, I've had the pleasure of listening to some of their rantings. My e mail somehow got on their list too and I've received crazyjunk mail from them. I opened a new e mail account and now carefully screen everything...Yes, I imagine the Canadian counterparts would be tamer..:)

posted by Katray2 on March 28, 2012 at 10:42 AM | link to this | reply

Re: it is just too easy to raise people's prejudices and long held beliefs,

The place to start indeed, Dear Kabu. Thank you.

posted by Katray2 on March 28, 2012 at 10:36 AM | link to this | reply

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Me too, FSI. Thank you.

posted by Katray2 on March 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM | link to this | reply

Katray2 - I took time to read the article you link to

In it they mentioned an unknown number of Christian Identity believers in Canada. I have never run into them if they exist. It is very possible however, we have no problem producing our own homegron nut jobs but if they do exist their numbers must be miniscule . . . as Canadian Christian Identity believers they would also be unarmed and very polite.

posted by gomedome on March 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM | link to this | reply

it is just too easy to raise people's prejudices and long held beliefs,

I watch neighbours fighting over the fence and it says to me how can people across the world get on with each other. I pray for peace always and like Gandhi, try to begin love for other people with in my own heart.

posted by Kabu on March 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM | link to this | reply

What Ash wrote makes a lot of sense to me.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on March 28, 2012 at 9:34 AM | link to this | reply

Re: I think in this case, and in many similar ones the world over, ...

I feel you are correct, Ash; fear induces hatred and violence in some people.....and yes, we all are unique...and complex! Thank you for your thoughts.

posted by Katray2 on March 28, 2012 at 9:20 AM | link to this | reply

I think in this case, and in many similar ones the world over, ...

when it comes to disparate groups for whatever reason, religion / race / nationality, etc, it is the fear of the unknown that over-rides common sense for some people. It's just the intensity of it that varies from person to person.

Ability to bring such issues out in the open & debate them, despite attacks, so long as it's all done civilly, and the ultimate goal is to promote common, correct understanding, is commendable.

posted by ash_pradhan on March 28, 2012 at 8:57 AM | link to this | reply

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