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you read what you want to read into the statement then make misstatements

trying to paint Kooka as what he is trying to show that you are like, twisting his words to make it seem he is saying something that obviously he isn't saying.

what you and the conservatives here on Blogit say demonstrates the utter senselessness of conservative thought.

let me give you an arithmetic lesson:  1+ 1 = 2.  You are trying to make 1 + 1 = 3 -- it doesn't work.

fly that rebel flag johnny

posted by Xeno-x on August 21, 2009 at 5:15 PM | link to this | reply

Re: RSM.....

Yeah, it's like reading War and Peace on every comment. Should have at the bottom "worthless mindless liberal rant continued on next page."

posted by RedStatesMan on August 14, 2009 at 6:25 AM | link to this | reply

RSM.....

Have you ever seen anyone brag about the fact he's been blocked a number of times.......after the cracks he made, you were right in blocking........it's best anyway.   Who wants to try and decipher his rambling rants on an ongoing basis......

posted by Corbin_Dallas on August 13, 2009 at 7:17 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Red States Man

You are 100% correct; it does sound like a pelosi comment. I appreciate you understanding where I am coming from and why I blocked him from making comments. I will not take that from anyone especially a liberal.

posted by RedStatesMan on August 13, 2009 at 5:17 PM | link to this | reply

Red States Man

I am sorry someone had the gall to say you were using your daughter. He's manners are atrocious. I apologize for him that was such a low blow it could have come from Nancy Pilose.

posted by Justi on August 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM | link to this | reply

Re: RSM, here is the reply I left for you on my blog

I have paid for everything my daughter has ever needed. You know why? Because I do not agree with burdening the government with something that if I can take care of it then i will which is what I have done for 11 years. obviously, i am unlike everybody else in this nation which is why we have ones who demand to be taken care of by others. You have no idea that I have handled everything myself of course you think you did know as you do eveything else in this world.

So long kooka. Tired of your act! 

posted by RedStatesMan on August 12, 2009 at 8:22 PM | link to this | reply

RSM, here is the reply I left for you on my blog

That game's not going to work here at all.

What we are talking about here is NOTHING at all like cerebral palsy. But you already know that and are just using your daughter's condition to try and blur the reality of it all.

I've worked in a nursing home and I have seen the horrors we as a society allow to happen by keeping and forcing people to stay alive in bodies that are basically dead. I would never wish such a torture on my worse enemy, or even on you.  I would hope that those who care about you are not so heartless as to force you to be trapped in that manner. I already know for a fact that my family loves me enough to allow me to die if I ever got to that point. We went through this with my grandfather a year ago, and it was the right thing to do to let him go, as it was also what he wanted. And back to my uncle, his cancer had gotten so bad because of how bad the health care system is (Of course if we had universal health care, most likely they would have ran the needed tests when he first had the symptoms, back when the cancer was very treatable, and he would most likely still be alive today), that he was allowed to die as well. My family is not cruel and heartless,  We would NEVER wish to watch a love one suffer by forcing them to live when it would be nothing but pain and suffering for them.

So you are saying your daughter, who honestly is not going to be able to ever be able to take care of herself or be a productive member of society, that her life is more valuable than my uncle's life, who was a father and care giver?  I already know you are going to take this the wrong way, because you don't give a damn at all about what is truly best for this country, but in all honesty, it is more beneficial, responsible, cost effective and even if we wanted to get into it, humane, to put the health needs of those like my uncle above the needs of those like your daughter.

You talk about how expensive this program is going to be and then you say that it is somehow better to have everyone stuck paying outrageously high insurance rates so that your daughter is going to get better health care than my uncle got.  You see I am paying for your daughter care.  Everyone who forks over large portions of their pay to insurance companies is paying for your daughters care. My family is healthy enough that we are not the group that is causing health insurance to rise so much, as are most of the families I know that out there, paying huge amount for health care so that your daughter is going to be taken care. But your fine with that.  How dare we ask you to go and help pay for people like my uncle though.  That is just too unthinkable for some reason.  And of course we shouldn't have any say at all in this issue, because we are only paying for your daughter's care.  Our priorities and the needs to people other than your family are far from being important I guess.

Of course all of this is pointless anyway, because when the health care reform goes through (And it will, since we very much need it) your daughter will still be taken care just as she is now, but those like my uncle will suddenly have a chance to get better treatment and maybe some other father out there, who has treatable cancer but no health insurance, will get the testing he needs early enough to save his life and make sure he is there for his children.  But such thinking is responsible, fair, humane and better for society, so you obviously are very much against it.

And don't' give me the 'putting the price on a person's life' BS, because that is 100% what you are doing with your stance here.  You are saying my uncle and those like him are not worth the money to help keep them healthy and living.

posted by kooka_lives on August 12, 2009 at 8:07 PM | link to this | reply