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I really think faith is a mystery. Some things about faith in the Bible say, faith without works is dead, without faith it is impossible to please God.  Trusting in God is a very freeing thing and believing He loves me and cares about all aspects of my life. He has proved Himself over and over to me for over 30 years. But that is my testimony and I cannot convince anyone.  I am speaking for myself. I believe he loves everyone in the same way, but not all believe it.

posted by mariposa75 on July 7, 2009 at 8:34 AM | link to this | reply

Re: i don't think non-believers relate to what you say they relate to
"Born again" children of God are ready to learn, and they do learn form the Holy Spirit revealed and hidden things in scripture. They are not ready to learn false doctrine and man made precepts and pseudo christianity.

posted by calmcantey75 on July 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM | link to this | reply

i don't think non-believers relate to what you say they relate to
and have a problem with the "child-like" aspects.

children are ready to learn.

it's the mind no longer ready to learn that many people have a problem with.

it's acceptance of non-functional precepts without putting them to the test -- of refusing to accept new knowledge -- of remaining in a rigid state of mind and assuming that all others should share in these.

that (partially) is what non-believers have a problem with.

Christianity has to undergo a "born again" experience.


posted by Xeno-x on July 6, 2009 at 6:19 AM | link to this | reply

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Agreed, yes I think it's a question of finding the 'common chords' we all have irrespective of religion. As you know for example  Gomedome posted a the Hindu '10 commandments'. Going through those I think most human beings would agree on their good sense and ethical integrity. 

posted by elinjo on July 6, 2009 at 4:16 AM | link to this | reply

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Elinjo, thanks for visiting and a thoughtful comment. How do I relate? As long as they act like they have some sense then I would treat them as a friend. One thing we as human beings have in common is laughter. That is the common chord I try to strike.

posted by calmcantey75 on July 5, 2009 at 3:42 PM | link to this | reply

As a non-believer who tries not to be cynical and unpleasant towards believers, I should like to comment on your post.

I can see the advantages of believing in God; you feel a greater sense of security both now and you feel sure that this life is merely a threshold. With regard to ethical issues you have a reference book that you can consult when in doubt. Facing one of life's inevitable crises you take comfort in prayer and know that fellow-believers will pray for you.

Non-believers do not have these advantages. However because I can see the expediency in all this I cannot believe in God. Certainly I cannot disprove his existence any more than you can prove. You either believe or you don't believe. So I sit on the fence and call myself an agnostic; a Jewish one, actually. 

Being confrontational never helps win an un-winable argument. Making unkind remarks about believers or non-believers just causes unpleasantness.

As a Christian how do you relate I wonder to the many wise and good people who happen to believe in other religions?

posted by elinjo on July 5, 2009 at 4:36 AM | link to this | reply