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Sunnybeach7 - I see it now and could not agree more
Dissapointing 80 or so successive generations should be all it takes to get the message but somehow, there are some people who do not.
posted by
gomedome
on June 13, 2009 at 9:49 PM
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Gome....
Relevance... I was contributing from the thoughts about Jesus being nominated by Christianity as the Messiah...years after the fact.
I put it out there for those who may be anxiously waiting for his return to maybe now rethink what they spend their time waiting for. 
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on June 12, 2009 at 11:54 AM
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What if?
posted by
texture
on June 12, 2009 at 7:30 AM
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kooka_lives - Re: The Messiah is here, now kiss my feet
We were planning to lay palm leaves in your path wherever you walk but unfortunately palms aren't that numerous in this part of the world. We can't afford rose petals either. We decided instead to use grass cuttings and other things from our composters . . . I hope that's okay?
posted by
gomedome
on June 12, 2009 at 6:48 AM
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mysteria - Re: I think we are here to save each other
At the very least we must recognize that it is only our own efforts that will improve the outlook for our species.
posted by
gomedome
on June 12, 2009 at 6:42 AM
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Sunnybeach7 - if looking at the definition of a messiah it is not absurd
"messiah: One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator"
Granted, the word has its strongest identification with ancient prophecies foretelling the coming of a savior but in its common use today, especially as a liberator, there need not necessarily be an association with deity. So it could well be an atheist.
I'm curious as to how a speculation of the end times beginning in 1989 with a prophesied end of around 2,000, that never came to fruition, is even relevant?
posted by
gomedome
on June 12, 2009 at 6:39 AM
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The Messiah is here, now kiss my feet
And give me offerings to appease my god and save yourselves from damnation.
That is the only way to be saved if you ask me.
posted by
kooka_lives
on June 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM
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I think we are here to save each other
rescue one another
You put forth valiant effort
In that category
posted by
mysteria
on June 11, 2009 at 12:41 PM
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Gome...
It would be kinda absurd to think of an atheist being a messiah (in the common definition of the word). What would an atheist hold to actually deliver people from, except their own world destruction?
You said...
In ancient times, when as we can presume life was generally miserable for the common man Why is it that we presume that? And if it is actually true, I wonder why? Back in a time when there was so much land, so many commodities, so much abundance (surely enough for everyone), makes you wonder why and for what people went to war over anyway?
I do believe that back then, there was little enough that people were "closer" (if that is the word you would use) to source.
I think that Gods/Goddesses were created as a way for man to try to explain their inner being and this "source" that they were then more connected with than many today.
Then of course people came along and decided to use these things literally and use it to their advantage...then humanity got lost along the way.
In my research of metaphysics, I have come across some information that suggests that "the end times" were supposed to start back in like 1989? (not sure if that is the exact year)where the end was supposed to come around 1999-2001 ...and in one moment, all of humanity at the same time chose whether to let the end times scenario play out...or to save this world. They chose to save this world, and they and the world sort of evolved...and now there will never be a World War III or a need for a Messiah.... so it goes.
If you were actually someone who believes in end times and a savior...it would be something to think about.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on June 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
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Xeno-x - Re: people constantly seek salvation from someone else
It is a remarkable foible of human nature when it is considered the type of track record so called messiahs and charismatic leaders have had.
posted by
gomedome
on June 11, 2009 at 10:40 AM
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people constantly seek salvation from someone else
thus the religioius figures, like David Koresh and Jim Jones, who claim and whose followers believe that they are messiahs.
thus the consequences.
when people "work our their own salvation" we will have less of this.
it's all from the same root -- the primate's dominant male as savior.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 11, 2009 at 9:23 AM
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