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Wings, that is not being open minded
Do you have anything real to present to defend your side of this, or are you going to keep tying to use your take on what the Bible says as your only evidence?
posted by
kooka_lives
on May 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM
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Re: Wings
Im open minded too kooka, but only to things of the Bible.
"ON CHRIST THE SOLID ROCK I STAND, ALL OTHER GROUND IS SINKING SAND"
posted by
onwingsoflove
on May 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM
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Wings
But that was not a prophecy, it was God's law. That law says that salvation is NOT a personal thing. it says you can be damned to Hell because of what happened in your family ten generations before. it is very clear as to what it says. I've done no twisting of it at all. I taken ti 100% literally to the word. While you seem to need to twist it and add something to it that is not there in order to force it to fit with your desired views.
I use your words back at you because they prove a valid point. You wish to degrade me for not sharing your views, while at the same time your just as , if not more so, guilty of what you claim of me. The thing is it is clear that you are far more closed minded than I am. I am open to new information and am ready to ask questions of my own beliefs and see if they hold up. So far they have. I am not at all scared of being exposed to new information and seeing what other possibilities are out there.
posted by
kooka_lives
on May 13, 2009 at 2:26 PM
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Re: The godbots have an evil god who wants basic robots
Nobody ask you to call names now did they? You remind me of zenmom, you're beginning to act childish xeno.
posted by
onwingsoflove
on May 13, 2009 at 1:43 PM
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Re: Wings, where are you getting that from?
The old testament is full of prophecies about the coming Messiah. Furthermore salvation is a personal thing, as I said, you cant understand, why do you use MY words in your comments back to me, whats wrong, you cant think of any of your own?
posted by
onwingsoflove
on May 13, 2009 at 1:42 PM
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The godbots have an evil god who wants basic robots
not those who analyse and question and arrive at reasoned conclusions.
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 13, 2009 at 12:36 PM
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Wings, where are you getting that from?
The Deuteronomy rules come before the whole 'born again' idea ever gets presented. So there the logic of it being in reference to being 'born again' makes no sense.
And even if we tried you logic there, that still does not mean I could be saved. If my great, great-grandfather was not 'born again' then I am still out of luck there. It clearly says ten generations, which would make it really next to impossible to get into Heaven.
See, you lack discernment, you won't understand even when I explain it to you, because you don't want to understand.
posted by
kooka_lives
on May 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM
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Re: Wings
Kooka, thats not talking about an earthly dad, it's talking about the HEAVENLY FATHER. If you are NOT born again into the family of God then the Bible says "You are batards and not sons". It's talking of a SPIRITUAL BIRTH not a fleshly birth. See, you lack discernment, you want understand even when I explain it to you, because you dont want to understand.
posted by
onwingsoflove
on May 13, 2009 at 12:20 PM
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Wings
The more I deal with those like you, the more I knwo I would much rather get sent to Hell.
But you need not worry abotu me anyway. According to the Bible I was already stuck going to Hell before I was ever conceived. You see my father is technically a bastard and since you know the Bible so well, you knwo that I can't get into Heaven.
Deuteronomy
23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the assembly of Yahweh; even to the tenth generation shall none of his enter into the assembly of Yahweh.
I think that is as clear as it gets. So everyone might need to go and look back on their family trees, because if ten generations ago your whatever-great-grandfather was a bastard, you're screwed.
posted by
kooka_lives
on May 13, 2009 at 12:15 PM
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Then you may very well get your wish Kooka, I'd be careful of saying such foolish things.
posted by
onwingsoflove
on May 13, 2009 at 11:42 AM
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