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Me proving you guys wrong by providing logic, reasoning and real other real forms of evidence, yet again, is a classic? I am very much curious then as to what you consider classic.
posted by
kooka_lives
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May 9, 2009
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RSM, you still don't get it.
Just by asking the question says you don't understand what is going on. Christianity is being forced on people daily. You might not be the one actively doing it (Although from many of your posts it sounds like you want to), but it is forced on those of us who do not believe in it. Now I have no problem with Christmas and celebrate it myself as a non-religious holiday, but when I hear about how horrible it is that stores use "Happy Holidays' and that Christian groups want to boycott those stores, that says to me that Christians are forcing their beliefs on others. When we are being told the main reason conservatives are against homosexual marriage is because homosexual are an abomination in the eyes of God, that is Christians forcing their beliefs on others. The idea that my child should have time taken out of his school day so your child can pray during school instead of doing it at home or during his/her own free time is Christians trying to force their beliefs on others.
Do I really need to go on with more examples of this?
I am all for you having the rights to believe as you need to and live the life you feel si right for you. I have no problem with your worshiping as you need to and practicing the rituals that feel right to you. I would never once think of boycotting a company just because their political/religious views do not agree with mine, since I very much believe in freedom. I would never try to get laws passed that denied one group of people the same privileges I enjoy just because I disagree with their lifestyle or beliefs, while at eh same time I do not expect to be given any special privileges because of my beliefs, especially when those special privileges are unnecessary for me to follow my beliefs and take away from others. I have no desire at all to force my beliefs on others. All I want is for others to respect my beliefs and not force theirs on me. The problem is that you don't understand this because you refuse to walk in someone else's shoes. Since what is being forced on others is what you already agree with , it does not feel forced to you.
Think about this, how often have you degraded me just for the simple reason that I do not follow you religious and political beliefs? What do you hope to gain by attempting to make me feel bad for being who I am? We could easily disagree and have a reasonable exchange of ideas and that is what I really would like to see. But you don't seem to want that. You would rather cut me down and tell me how worthless and stupid I am because I do not share your views. That is attempting to force your beliefs on others.
Just so you know you are very close to getting blocked by me. You still can't seem to leave me a comment that has value to it. You go and insult, degrade and attack my character without ever presenting a valid argument. You rarely seem to be able to comment at all with out insulting me as much as possible, and then you get upset when I return the same disrespect back at you. The only reason you are not blocked is because I very much disagree with blocking people from commenting. I've only done ti once and that blogger made it clear have had no respect for me at all and was never going to give anything I said a chance. And you have shown yourself to be a lot like him in that respect.
Look at my last comment here. I made no personal attacks, the closest being what I said you were puling stuff out of your ass, but those were not attacks on your character and they were not done for the sake of attacking. You made outrageous claims with nothing to back them up. Claims that were clearly meant as nothing more than an insult and an attack towards those who do not share your beliefs.
I have tried to calm things down between us in the past and show you more respect than you show me, but you never return it. Instead you attack my character, make a degrading remark about me and find other ways to put me down. And then you get upset when I once more return that level of disrespect.
And yet you still are not going to allow yourself to see this pattern of yours are you?
posted by
kooka_lives
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May 9, 2009
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RSM.....
You need to save that longer comment.......it's a classic!
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
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May 9, 2009
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Re: RSM, do you have any clue as to what you are talking about?
By the way, I would like to thank you for never banning me from commenting on your posts. I would not do that to you as well even though we do not agree on much of anything. That does show merit.
Thanks!
posted by
RedStatesMan
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May 9, 2009
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Re: RSM, do you have any clue as to what you are talking about?
As usual, there's a lot of material here to answer and work with, unfortunately I do not have that much time tonight, however I will respond to all.
I still would like for you to tell me how I (a Christian) am forcing you to do anything, anything against your will? I never understood that and never will.
As for defense, when 9/11 occurred, the liberals cried out "Why isn't Bush doing anything?" Then when he did it was "This war was wrong, Bush is a warmonger.' In a situation like 9/11 you can not be wishy washy as liberals are always. If your boy Biden was correct about his prediction of Obama being tested then we will see what happens. Oh yea we will see.
posted by
RedStatesMan
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May 9, 2009
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Re: I FOR ONE WANT TO SEE REPUBLICANS BECOME EXTINCT.
"We need to move forward like we did the the 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's -- before conservatism began its stifling control."
So we need another depression, another world war and another Vietnam as well. Xeno, I have a feeling you will not be disappointed. As long as democrats are in control there will no end to problems. Nice to see that you wish death (extinct) upon republicans. With that kind of statement you could be labeled a hater, hate speech violator, a man made disaster or a homegrown terrorist! No wait, you can't because you are a liberal, they only want to arrest conservatives.
Nice party you keep Xeno, real nice.
posted by
RedStatesMan
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May 9, 2009
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Re: Dark Life
Thanks casinocat (love that name)!
posted by
RedStatesMan
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May 9, 2009
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Re: RSM......
Oh yea, I meant to include 2010. We must change congress badly. I feel that maybe a few people who have relaized their wrong will correct it 2010 on forward.
Thanks for stopping by and keep Kentucky clean (of liberals).
posted by
RedStatesMan
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May 9, 2009
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I FOR ONE WANT TO SEE REPUBLICANS BECOME EXTINCT.
Vote every one of them out of office. Then we'll be going in the right directoin.
We need to move forward like we did the the 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's -- before conservatism began its stifling control.
posted by
Xeno-x
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May 9, 2009
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RSM, do you have any clue as to what you are talking about?
Liberals and/or Democrats (Funny things is that I see democrats are begin far too much like Republicans for my liking) do not at all fit with your claims.
Being pro-choice is NOT anti-life, unless you want to say that being pro-capital
punishment is anti-life.
And could you give me any logic at all that says liberals are anti-family? Any small piece of evidence to back up this foolish claim?
What is wrong with being pro individualism. that is a good thing.
And being anti-capital
punishment is not being pro criminal, although the main issue with capital punishment is that we have seen far too many times where a person innocent of the crime is executed. But of course you don't care abotu such things and just want to see people get killed because fo your distorted idea of justice, and that is very much anti-life.
It is anti-organized/controlling/forced religion. I know of no liberals who are anti-religion in general. As log as you don't try to push your beliefs or force us to suffer you religious practices, we don't care
And the "anti-capitalism,
pro socialism/communism" is pure 100% right-wing propaganda, but you don't care about such truths.
The claim of anti-America is pure BS and you know that, but once more facts and truth matter not to you. All you care abotu is spreading your BS propaganda just to be insulting.
As for being pro European, is that a bad thing? I have no problem with Europe myself and I very much feel we can learn a lot by looking at what is working over there in relationship to what is not working over here. And don't you keep going on abotu how great of an ally of ours Great Britain is? You do know they are in Europe?
"Anti-heterosexual", "anti-man/woman marriage" what the hell are you talking about? Being pro gay/metro sexual, or pro
same sex marriage does not make one anti-heterosexual or anti-man/woman marriage. Do you have any form of logic, reasoning or facts to back up this weak cliam? Because this is clearly you just pulling something out of your ass.
We all are for defense, but don't believe you go and start a war for no good reason. That is not defending the country.
And what is wrong with being pro pacifism? That claim goes against your earlier on about us being anti-life. Why go to war if there are other options that will not waste thousands of people's lives?
We are only anti-US flag in regards to worshiping it at the level Conservatives do, when they turn it into a graven images and give it rights and preveliges above those of the people. It is a piece of clothes and while we respect it and what ti stands for, it is NOT more important the rights of a single person
I have no idea what you mean be pro Obama
logo in truth. We have nothing against the logo, but it is JUST a logo, no different in that respects from any other political logo out there really.
And we are only anti-values/principles of the out dates 'values' and 'principles' that that hold us back as a society, keeping us from reaching our true potential, one which the Conservatives refuse to let go of and try to force on the rest of us as if they idea of what are 'value's and 'principles' are the right ones, no matter how often it has been shown otherwise
And then you try to claim pro new world order. You do know that the NWO is a big load of paranoid conspiracy theory BS? Unless you were into pro-wrestling a few years back. I never took you to be one to take that kind of thing seriously.
Then we got the anti-veteran/military one. Once more that it just pure right wing propaganda. Just because we are not dumb enough to want to go to war withe very country we have a disagreement with, does not mean we are against having a military. We are very much aware there is a need for it, but we don't believe in abusing our soldiers by sending them off to die when we can find other ways to handle the relations with other countries.
And then you sink to almost your lowest of levels with the claim of pro pedafile. Give me one, just one piece of proof to back this up. Do you have anything at all to defend thsi claim? I mean this is really pulling something out of your ass.
So you are saying that 40 hour work weeks, fair wages, child labor laws, women's rights to vote, anti-segregation laws and so on have not benefited this country? All those ideas are liberal. I could go on and on about all the good that liberal ideas have done for this country and point out all manner of dark beliefs that can be found in conservative thinking. Get over yourself and stop spreading such poorly conceived BS propaganda just because you want to insult people who do not agree with or share you views. The kind of thinking expressed in this post fits in much better with what we see over in the Middle East than in a democracy.
posted by
kooka_lives
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May 9, 2009
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Dark Life
I agree and I just stood up to second Corbin Dallas.
posted by
casinocat
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May 9, 2009
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RSM......
We need to really be thinking about it in 2010.....our only hope is to be able to stop this craziness by turning off the spigot .......that feeds the insanity tearing our system apart.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
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May 9, 2009
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