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Xeno-x - Re: just saw something that looked awry is all
It was nothing more than a poorly constructed phrase, something that we have all been guilty of. . . . but it did give some inspiration for the following post.

posted by gomedome on April 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM | link to this | reply

just saw something that looked awry is all
sorry if there was confusion

posted by Xeno-x on April 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM | link to this | reply

TO: GOME
YES, THAT IS WHAT I MEANT THANK YOU HAVE A GGOD DAY SIR

posted by preacher43 on April 29, 2009 at 7:23 AM | link to this | reply

preacher43 - no need to apologize about anything
The way I read it was: "Gomedome (and) to all"  . . . which I think was your intention.

posted by gomedome on April 29, 2009 at 6:56 AM | link to this | reply

Xeno-x - I don't see what you are implying at all
 

posted by gomedome on April 29, 2009 at 6:49 AM | link to this | reply

Re:: XENO-X
I MADE A MISTAKE AND YOUR RIGHT THATS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BUT  DID NOT MEAN FOR IT TO LOOK THAT WAY  MY APOLOGIES TO GOME AND ALL THAT FEEL OFFENDED.

posted by preacher43 on April 29, 2009 at 6:49 AM | link to this | reply

Re: XENO-X
IF YOUR REFERRING TO MY THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPINION COMMENT I WAS JUST THANKING ALL YOU GOOD PEOPLE, SORRY IF YOU FEEL THAT HAVE A GREAT DAY SIR

posted by preacher43 on April 29, 2009 at 6:40 AM | link to this | reply

Re: RE: GOMEDOME TO ALL -- preacher43's fake comment
why'd you do this preacher43?  make it look like gomey wrote it almost.  a little fraud committed here?

shows certain types will sin for Jesus.


posted by Xeno-x on April 29, 2009 at 6:32 AM | link to this | reply

Gome...
I wouldn't even do such for a friend!

But of course, I don't believe anything bad or negative happens to us when we "die", just a state of returning to pure energy and a state of bliss.... so I wouldn't really have any reason to.

But if I did believe in heaven and hell, as a friend, I'd want to keep you on the path to hell with me anyway. You and anyone who's smart enough to remember to bring the marshmallows and wienies. lol.

posted by Afzal_Sunny7 on April 28, 2009 at 2:20 PM | link to this | reply

posted by hazel_st_cricket on April 28, 2009 at 12:21 PM | link to this | reply

RE: GOMEDOME TO ALL
Thank you all for your opinions hope you all have a great day.

posted by preacher43 on April 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM | link to this | reply

metalrat - there is more than a ring of truth in your words of jest

If, in the example I give in this post, the roles were reversed, we all know what the outcome would have been. It is very likely that the young man, intent on sharing the love of Jesus with me, would have become hostile. He might have even said something to the effect of: "I'm going to have to insist that from this point on, your beliefs remain entirely your problem"

 . . . and that is the part the religious folks amongst us will never understand. My reaction was as anyone's would be.

posted by gomedome on April 28, 2009 at 10:59 AM | link to this | reply

elinjo - exactly and that is ultimately reason why I viewed this person's
need to sell me on their religious views as their problem.

posted by gomedome on April 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM | link to this | reply

Xeno-x - Re: God has never given "free will".

" . . . God didn't insidiously give us that "free will" in order to set us up to go to Hell"

But if one adheres to a belief that only their religion has the one true path to heaven, then free will is no longer a catch 22 but becomes the one and only means of reconciling the ridiculous. . . that is if one does not give it too much thought.  

posted by gomedome on April 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM | link to this | reply

ZenMom - utlimately the notion of free will is simply just another

layer of religious fabrication.

Used we can presume as a means of explaining how an all knowing omnipotent being could create us in his own image, yet set us up for immediate failure with the fruit chomping floozy incident.

posted by gomedome on April 28, 2009 at 10:39 AM | link to this | reply

preacher43 - contrary to the common religious theme concerning free will
I do not feel that there is a direct correlation between free will and what a person believes. I do not know anyone who has made a choice as to what they believe. Indirectly, some choose not to question traditional religious constructs further (or at all in some cases) but I have yet to meet a person that has made a conscious decision to believe or not believe. If this were the case, we could all turn our beliefs on and off like a light switch.  

posted by gomedome on April 28, 2009 at 10:36 AM | link to this | reply

Here's an interesting and amusing thought...
...Atheists going door-to-door to share their message, the way various Christian sects do.
Wonder what kind of reception they'd get? Acceptance? Tolerance?
But, then again, no Atheist in his/her right mind would want to risk that...per chance encountering a fundy. lmao...though not funny! lol

posted by metalrat on April 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM | link to this | reply

As a general rule aggressive salesmanship does not really work irrespective of whether you're selling vacuum cleaners or a philosophy/religion.

posted by elinjo on April 28, 2009 at 10:06 AM | link to this | reply

God has never given "free will".
that's a myth.

We are born as all animals are born -- able to do anything we please.

Various religions set rules for people to follow.  This is the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.  The system of rules makes gods out of those who made and enforce the rules.

Christianity is no different.  Problem is, among the some thousand or so Christian sects, etc., the rules are different -- dozens of different sets of rules.

So what set of rules is right?

We have the "free will" to choose or reject -- but God didn't insidiously give us that "free will" in order to set us up to go to Hell.


posted by Xeno-x on April 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM | link to this | reply

Re:

God  gives us "freewill"? Then he tells us how we will go to hell if we do not follow his arbitrary, ridiculous rules....Doesn't sound like free will to me.

 

posted by ZenMom on April 28, 2009 at 9:51 AM | link to this | reply

SIR, I AGREE ON ONE THING YOU CAN NOT FORCE BELIEFS ON ANYONE ITS THEIR CHOICE TO MAKE NOT ANYONE ELSES. (1) THATS WHY GOD GAVE US ALL FREEWILL)( 2) THE MORE A PERSON PUSHES THE FARTHER AWAY THE OTHER PERSON GOES. HAVE A GRAT DAY. 

posted by preacher43 on April 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM | link to this | reply

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