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kooka_lives - this is a sad exchange

I blocked this dribbler last week after coming to much the same realization. Years of comments that never said anything or made any kind of valid point, all of which where only intent on being insulting. Though I admittedly let it go on for its entertainment value, slapping him in the head over and over again to garner a few clicks, even that became tiresome.  

 

posted by gomedome on April 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM | link to this | reply

RSM, I am done with you

There is no point to this.  You said what you said.  It is as clear as it gets as to what you said and what you meant when you said it.  I can take ti just fine actally, if you could ever just ONCE make a constrcutive comment that had any real value to it at all.  Isntead you gernalize liek mad by sayign 'because all atheist are like this" and other such stereotypical BS that it just show you are of a very weak character and will never be able to grow beyond the little delusions you cling to.  You sit on your high horse and degrade all those who are not up there with you, as you openly declare that you need not listen to logic reasoning or facts, unless they agree with your preconceived ideas about everything.  I am really starting to wonder if there are people more closed minded than you and some of the other fundamental conservatives here.  I really have never seen such a closed minded bunch who embrace every bit of ignorant propaganda they can find.

To claim that I or anyone else could not understand how much YOU love YOUR children is NOT agreeing with anything I said in the post. What you said was clearly insulting and can not be taken any other way.  And just because your daughter is handicap does not mean I or anyone else cannot understand what you are going through.  Yes ti is different than what most other (Not all mind you, because there are others out there children who need the same kind of help).  I very much understand the extreme that one can love their children and would never believe that any other parent out there would not be able to understand that as well.

And no it is not a contradiction to say that once your children have moved out and formed a life of their own you redefine your priorities.  You are still there for them and still love the and still do all you can to help them, but you have to let them take care of their own lives at that point and so it becomes best to not give them the priority they had when they were younger.  At that point your own needs should be met first, because you should have raised your children to be able to take care of their own needs.  If you've raised them right that should not be a real issue.  Sure we all hit hard times and parents often help us out, but I do not at all expect my parents to make the same kind of sacrifice for me now that they did when I was younger.  I do call on them when I need their help, but for the most part I understand that they have raised me and now they need to take care of themselves.  If anything it will come around to the point that once my children have moved on and it is time to prioritize, my parents are going to actually need more attention from me than my kids.  That is all part of the ever growing, ever changing reality of life.  At different points in life different people in your life needs different levels of priority.  It has nothing to do with how much you love your kids or your parents or anyone else.  It has EVERYTHING to do with where people are in life and what their needs are in relative to yourself.

Now unless you are able to actually for once produce something of really value to say, I got nothing more to say to you.  I grow tired of the attempts at degrading me and attacking my character just because I do not see the world as you do.  I see nothing more to be gained from pointing out how stupid and poorly conceived the majority of your ideas are, since you clearly are far too closed minded to be able to grasp the truth.  With you open acknowledgment that you dislike reason, logic and facts, it really makes no sense to keep trying to get through to you.

If you want a real exchange were we politely present our views and show each other respect as we disagree, I am all for that.  But once more I will point out that such is what I tried for at first between us and YOU replied by mocking me and my ideas in a degrading and insulting fashion. The way I have treated you since has ONLY been a reflection of how you continue to treat me.  So I am putting the challenge before you to try and start over, of course considering that you are unable to write a post or give one that is not insulting and degrading or give a blog a title that is not insulting or degrading, I see little hope for this. You do not want an open, polite exchange of ideas.  You want to openly insult anyone who does not share your beliefs and that is the number one reason we are unable to get along here.

posted by kooka_lives on April 26, 2009 at 10:23 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: RSM, you are a total idiot and a-hole

RSM would you read my comment here please?

posted by Xeno-x on April 26, 2009 at 8:19 AM | link to this | reply

I WANT TO PLEASE GOD AND I WILL PRAY THAT YOU WILL TO SOMEDAY HAVE A BLESSED DAY SIR

posted by preacher43 on April 26, 2009 at 6:07 AM | link to this | reply

Re: RSM, you are a total idiot and a-hole

One thing is for sure, you can certainly dish it out but you certainly can not take it. However, do not take this to heart because all atheist are like this so you have company. We have been back and forth on political and religious issues for years now. However, I expect it to continue because I will never back down on my beliefs nor will you.

What you twist or pick up on in comments are incredible. My family experiences are much different than yours. My daughter is handicapped so our life is much different than other in that she can not perform any daily functions witout my wife and I. My comment, "Our children are loved more than you or anyone else will ever be able to understand."  was actually in agreement with your post so please go back and read your own post. You made an issue out of a non-issue. The only right thing you said here was : "I agree with you about the "Well when they are 18 then they are on their own" comment.  You are their parents for life and should always be there for them, but once they are own their own and established, you have to reset your priorities.  At that point you and your spouse have earned the right to make your needs your primary concerns." Now, the only problem here is that once again you contradicted your liberal self.  You agreed with me but then you said you have to reset your priorities. maybe so to some extent but you are still theie parents no matter what the age. You seem to think that once they would reach a point then.. they would not need you and that is incorrect because it is a lifetime. How do you know what the future holds?

As far as the other two paragraphs of insults then that is all I have to say to you for now. Have a great day and I do hope the best for you in life with your family.  

posted by RedStatesMan on April 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM | link to this | reply

RSM, you are a total idiot and a-hole

And you keep showing yourself to be totally clueless and unable to grasp even the most simple of logic that I present.,  This whole post went so far over your head.  Although I am already positive that most of your problem here is because it was my concepts and you just have to act like ans ass to anything i say.

Let's see if I can't dumb it all down so that you might be able to understand it.

It is not about 'numbering' your family members.  It is about pure simple logic, and I promise you my wife very much understands this and agrees with it.  A truly intelligent person understands who to prioritizes and make sure that certain things that are a higher priority get the attention they need in order to insure it all works out as best as possible.

My kids come first. Their needs must be my primary concern, as it should be with any family.  If they kids are not being taken care of first and foremost, then there are problems, something is not right. Part of being a responsible parent is to make sure that your kids are taken care of BEFORE yourself.  Kid are far more limited as to what hen can and should do for themselves. Now part of them being the number one priority is to teach them to go and take care of themselves at the expense of your free time. Most of my time now days is directed towards making sure my boys get what they need, and I make a great deal of sacrifices to do that.

Now my wife comes next because she does not need as much, since she can take care of herself.  But I put her as a higher priority as myself right now because she is very much needed by me to help take care of my kids and if I make her a higher priority than myself and she does that for me, then we are helping each other to be in a better position for our children.  If it were just me and her, I would not have my kids to worry about and so could be on equal footing with her since she her needs would not be as great, just as mine would not.

I agree with you about the "Well when they are 18 then they are on their own" comment.  You are their parents for life and should always be there for them, but once they are own their own and established, you have to reset your priorities.  At that point you and your spouse have earned the right to make your needs your primary concerns.

Then you show yourself to be such a complete and total a-hole that I do not have words to describe just how low and ignorant you were able to sink.  "Our children are loved more than you or anyone else will ever be able to understand."  Could you really have gotten any more insulting there?  And not just towards me, but towards everyone else who has children.   I can promise you beyond an shadow of a doubt that you do NOT love your children any more than I love mine.  I and so many countless others very much understand the kind of love you have for your children, because we have the same kind of love for ours.  Not I do know there are those out there who do not love their children as much, but you said 'you and anyone else' which is truly the most ignorantly insulating thing I think I have ever seen posted here on Blogit.  My opinion of you has somehow, remarkably, dropped even lower, which I really never thought could have been possible.  For you to say this nonsense, let alone seem to believe that you and your wife somehow have a greater love for your children than ANYONE else... It would have been insulting enough for you to claim you loved you kids more than I loved mine, but 'ANYONE ELSE'? You have just insulted so many other bloggers to such an unimaginable degree.

And then you quote Bible verse.  Man you know how to show just how dumb you really are. I mean when has that nonsense ever proven anything to me?  I use Bible verses to show believers how ignorant of their own beliefs they are, but those same verse are useless to throw at me. Your comment this time really just show that you are a sad, clueless person living in his own little delusional world

posted by kooka_lives on April 25, 2009 at 7:19 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: You're Joking Right?

1Jo 4:20

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

1Jo 4:21

And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

We show our love for God by loving those who are closest to us.

 

Luk 10:27

And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

and who is "thy neighbor"?

The parable of the Good Samaritan following demonstrates that a person's "neighbor" is even one whom we consider almost an enemy, as the Samaritans were to the Jews of the time.  The next vagrant you meet is your neighbor.  The next Moslem.

God is apart from us and there is no way to show love to God directly; however, if we show love to those around us, even the least, we have done it to God.

So loving one's family is the same as loving God, and parents' main responsibility is toward their children and the welfare and good upbringing of such.  Once a couple has children, the couple's needs are subjugated.  Else, where would the children be?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

posted by Xeno-x on April 25, 2009 at 7:02 AM | link to this | reply

Re: You're Joking Right?

Of course your children are the most importan thing in a married coupled life, this is a given but:

Genesis 2:22-24 (New American Standard Bible)

posted by RedStatesMan on April 24, 2009 at 11:11 PM | link to this | reply

You're Joking Right?

You number your family as far as importance? Your wife is #2? I am sure she is flattered by the #2 position. Your comments in this post are some of the most twisted and ignorant beliefs I have ever seen. I do not know whether to feel sorry for you or to blast you for your comments here. Your personal assumptions are incredible in your posts.

"Teaching that God should be the most important thing in life is teaching people that they are not important"

"In my life my family comes first. My boys are the number one priority in my life. My wife is number two because of my boys. If we did not have kids she would be on equal footing with me."

So we must number our family members instead? By saying that your wife is #2 you just placed an importance ranking on your own wife? What kind of fool are you? Heck, you can't say two sentences without contradicting your ownself! You have your own number of importance in your life and your wife is #2. In my family we are all equal and we love each other more than anything in this world and I certainly do not number each member of my family. You took your wife as your bride to be which would mean under normal circumstances unless you are an atheist liberal that you have taken her as your wife for life and that is the ultimate. Of course, we all love our children to a degree that no one can argue but you married your wife and both of you are as of one. Do you get this at all? Doubtful. Of course your children are the utmost #1 concern of you and your wife but you must remember that they are your responsiblity. The one statement I have always hated in my life is when someone says, "Well when they are 18 then they are on their own." I HATE THAT COMMENT! You brought them into the world and they are your children from 1-100 years of age.

In our family we are a unit together. No one is numbered as in yours. My wife is who I married before God. I love her and we went forward to begin a life together. Our family is a unit. Our children are loved more than you or anyone else will ever be able to understand. However, I do believe your logic, reasoning and facts are fogging up your senses. You need to stop needing facts and numbers and logic and facts and reasoning to explain everything. That is not what it is all about.

Our family is a unit together. We believe in God and He is who we follow in our lives. There is no numbering under God. You need to understand that.

 

posted by RedStatesMan on April 24, 2009 at 10:46 PM | link to this | reply