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Re: ash_pradhan - thanx again for stopping in
You are welcome Gome ! It pleases me to see other rational writers with global understanding / views, such as "mighty mouse" (my aptly fond name for "metalrat" :)) are joining the dialogue here. It can only help raise the level of general awareness for all, which I consider to be the prime vehicle for peace & understanding, especially in an era where the leaders seem to be less so.
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ash_pradhan
on April 6, 2009 at 10:52 AM
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Pat_B - Re: Hi, Gome. Hope your days are going well.
Yes, things are going well thank you. The junk business is slow but I'm up to other things.
The Easter bunny laying eggs, coming from the mouths of adults is scary.
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gomedome
on April 6, 2009 at 7:53 AM
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Hi, Gome. Hope your days are going well.
I've missed your pot-stirring, but I've been painting my office & doing a bit of remodeling and haven't made it to your neck of the woods.
I saw on Leno the other night that some people think the Easter bunny actually lays eggs. Now there's a fundamentalist for you -- fundamentally ignorant. These are the newly arrived at voting age folks who will be running the country shortly.
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Pat_B
on April 6, 2009 at 6:04 AM
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Re: metalrat - in fairness; where I do think that the urgency factor is not
You know, gomedome, reading that link reminded me of the fallacious notion that America was originally intended to be a WASP nation. Reading some of the comments of the Founding Fathers suggests otherwise.
Some, like Benjamin Franklin, were Deists, but, even
they knew the dangers inherent in a nation that imposed a religious agenda. Especially since the early settlers had to escape persecution at the hands of the Church of England.
It's sort of like the notion that
all the colonists were for Independence, when, in actuality, the sentiments were pretty evenly divided between those
for independence, those
against...and those who didn't care less.
And, according to statisitcs, America is
more religious now, than she has ever been...one of the reasons the clamor for bringing God back into American life rings so hollow.
Sorry for rambling on, but, there is so much I want to say about religion in America and dispelling the myths.
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metalrat
on April 5, 2009 at 3:01 PM
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metalrat - in fairness; where I do think that the urgency factor is not
completely without merit, there is a greater motivating factor for this agenda.
The notion that a return to religious values of yesteryear as a cure for all that ails society, is a popular and widespread misconception. The "Wedge Strategy" (advanced knuckleheadism by an outfit called "the Discovery Institute" of all ridiculous names) is premised upon an idea that by forcing people to be exposed to their brand of post protestant reformation lunacy, it will put God back into society.
posted by
gomedome
on April 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM
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Re: metalrat - Re: One of the difficulties in teaching ID in public schools...
Gomedome, you make an excellent point, that hasn't occured to me...and that is the urgency factor for the Religious Wrong...errr...Right, in that they want ID to start being taught while they are still the dominant religion in the U.S, which they know won't be for much longer.
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metalrat
on April 5, 2009 at 1:49 PM
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metalrat - Re: One of the difficulties in teaching ID in public schools...
That is the most valid of points in this discussion, which seems somehow to escape the "impose religion on the rest of us crowd". They only have social demographics working in their favor today, but times are changing. It is not inconceivable to eventually arrive at a point where the demographic breakdown of religious beliefs is different than it is now. With continuing diversification being the most probable scenario. I can't help but feel that this reality is part of what motivates the ID camp, they know they are losing numbers and want to find other ways of indoctrination.
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gomedome
on April 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM
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ash_pradhan - thanx again for stopping in
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gomedome
on April 5, 2009 at 12:47 PM
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One of the difficulties in teaching ID in public schools...
...is that in our diverse, multi-cultural society, every shade of religion would be clamoring to have their creation myths taught alongside the others.
What a debacle that would be...the court dockets would be back-logged for years over the lawsuits!
I agree...leave religion out of the classrooms.
posted by
metalrat
on April 5, 2009 at 8:23 AM
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Very well-written & balanced viewpoint !
posted by
ash_pradhan
on April 5, 2009 at 8:07 AM
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Xeno-x - Re: There are too many holes in Intelligent Design theory
The idea of attributing the undeniable complexity as found in living things to an intelligent designer is admittedly a compelling argument. . . . but if all aspects of this notion are not subject to potential revision, including the number of and identity of the designer(s), it is nothing more than a religious belief.
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gomedome
on April 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM
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There are too many holes in Intelligent Design theory
It couldn't even get off the ground as a legitimate scientific theory.
posted by
Xeno-x
on April 4, 2009 at 11:22 AM
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