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Re: benzinha

WileyJohn, we can't succeed at everything, or then we fail to appreciate our successes. I think that ou have done well, or as well as you were capable of doing with the skills that you possessed at the time.

And, that wasn't a poem, but nice ofyou to think so. It's just how I write sometimes, breaking up sentences to give them more thought,

more emphasis.

We are educated to the ideal of marriage without being educated to its best execution in real life. Sad.

posted by benzinha on January 9, 2009 at 8:28 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Yes and no. This is a very profound question you have raised

My mother, Greenfields, always said that the use of friendship and kindness and compromise and co-operation, was essential to a good marriage. Men can dominate, but those who don't are better friends, and the same for women.

I think that marriage can be seen as a power position of one or the other or, as I understand it, better viewed as two oxen pulling the same plow in cooperation, planting the best life possible, together without conflicts for the good of all.

Not that we must be oxen, I'm sure, but two ballet dancers then, creating a beautiful experience for all in their co-operation.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

posted by benzinha on January 9, 2009 at 8:24 AM | link to this | reply

Re: That's life . It is life Whacky, and not an easy one, but possible as

per the example of your folks and mine. Three of my sisters have married for life, I never could, heh heh. They used better choice criterion than I ever used.

Sad, but true, I am my own writing.

posted by benzinha on January 9, 2009 at 8:10 AM | link to this | reply

benzinha
That's quite a piece of poetry you wrote the luv, it made me feel kind of sad. So many different kinds of relationships in life, seems like only a few find real happiness. I think I've been fortunate enough to find it twice in this life, I have nor regrets except one. That is that I once failed at the idealism of the marriage. But, succeeding at it twice means a lot more to me.

posted by WileyJohn on January 6, 2009 at 8:29 PM | link to this | reply

Yes and no. This is a very profound question you have raised
I know people who stay together because they think they 'should' and do OK.  I know people who leave each other and do OK.  I know people who stay together and leave and don't do OK.  So many possibilities - for hapiness and misery.  I think relationships do well if people are hoest with first themselves and then each other.  If they stay in the relationship or leave, this honesty is eesential.  And, if they feel they have no 'out', they will need to have the skills to make it work.  In my experience, few people have the skilsl and suffer enormously.

posted by Greenfields on January 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM | link to this | reply

That's life .
In this world...I often wonder how my mom and dad did it...stayed together I mean.

A rose from me and from you know who!

Bo the wonder dog =^. .^= & Woof!

posted by Whacky on January 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM | link to this | reply