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Re: The Race race

As always an insighful post. (rapper)Ice-Tea suggested everyone mix to end racial conflicts. However if one looks at India and many African/latino based places...still the lighter shade seems to count more. I repeat this..this is what black and latino based cultures are doing as well. Humans will always fight over something and soon it will shade as opposed to race.

You will inherit the planet, as nature will go in that direction. However I have enjoyed the differences as well as lashed out at them. As I said in a previous post..I'm glad I will be good and dead. I honestly feel the world is headed down.

posted by mordent on September 23, 2008 at 8:25 AM | link to this | reply

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It would be most natural to find your own race most desirable. Usually when one starts targeting another race it is because they could be disgusted with their own. This is the case I have most often found in talking about this with people. But please call me ignorant all you wish. 

posted by mordent on September 23, 2008 at 8:19 AM | link to this | reply

The Race race
Being of mostly Caucasian (with some fairly certain although denied by most, Asian Indian, highly probably South American Indian and who knows what else blood) and having grown up in the racial sin masters' country (South Africa) as a judicially declared white, I find racism and racial comments intriguing.  Something I discussed today with a fellow African from Zim(babwe), who is solid black, comes to mind reading your aiming to be controversial article.  In America it seems that when a black person and white person have offspring the children are called black.  In New Zealand, were I live currently, when a Maori person and a non-maori person have offspring a lot of the people I have met call these children Maori or even Black (which I fail to understand since I am very much the color of a lot of Maori and I am neither white nor black but more reddish yellow).  In SA we used to call those judicially declared of mixed racial descent colored and they now call themselves so-called coloreds.  A lot of this labeling seems to be based on fear of becoming less than "pure" white.  By the way, I've met many racist European descendants in NZ, but they wait until no Maori are present before showing their true colors.  Many "pure whites" seem to have nothing but their racial purity to be proud of.  You are right, we of mixed descent are going to become the majority some day and puritans are going to cry even more then.  We, the Race of Tan, are the inheritors of the Earth.  Learn to live with it.

posted by AardigeAfrikaner on September 20, 2008 at 5:27 AM | link to this | reply

People are not genetically predisposed to fall in love with one race or another.  To suggest such a thing is just plain ignorant.

posted by mejustme on September 16, 2008 at 11:56 AM | link to this | reply

You got balls
      And you state your case very well. Well done!

posted by muley12 on September 13, 2008 at 3:49 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Very perceptive, and I am tempted to say daring, given the current climate.

Very well said and perceptive as well. What you say is the truth about the darkening of North America. Unfortunately many are too brain-washed to see it or admit it.

I have a blog called "is the white man destroying the planet" that says a lot of what you say conceerning travel and how we all got the way we did. Nice to see someone else has balls.

posted by mordent on September 11, 2008 at 8:58 AM | link to this | reply

Very perceptive, and I am tempted to say daring, given the current climate.

Since homo sapiens sapiens is undoubtedly one species, emerging once out of Africa, the different ‘races’ developed in response to ‘local’ condition as well as chance mutations within breeding populations that were relatively immobile. Unless compelled by unusual circumstances, they didn’t travel. Typically, the majority of people lived and died within a fifty-mile radius of the place of their birth, until well into the 19th century...

The completely unprecedented increase in mobility among the world’s people, coupled with the equally unprecedented decline in the birthrate of virtually all white populations, would suggest that we are at the beginning of an overall ‘darkening’ of the entire species...

But I think you are absolutely correct in your assessment of the importance of ‘race’ in North America. Of course it is important, not least because it is ‘the Great Taboo’...

It’s an interesting reversal from the Victorian era: Victorians talked endlessly about race, and were silent about sex. We talk endlessly about sex, and are silent about race...

posted by Nautikos on September 11, 2008 at 6:46 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Our American opinions on race are our American opinions.

I don't see much of a difference between the US and the rest of the world as far as racial dynamics. I see the same racial patterns everywhere I go. At least in general. Dark pursuing light or light being curious with dark, motives etc etc.

I definetly agree when you say the youth wants to experiment but in the end most will go back to their roots so to speak. I believe I said that in my blog also.

Anyway your answer was thoughtful and insightful also.

 

posted by mordent on September 10, 2008 at 9:53 AM | link to this | reply

oops, lost my train of thought in the MOST OF THE WORLD place, Africa.
Sorry, got distracted by the telephone.....

posted by benzinha on September 9, 2008 at 2:40 PM | link to this | reply

Our American opinions on race are our American opinions.

Your opinions are not those of the world and though many of them are right on, many are way off.

We have a funny take on race because of our slave history. Many countries didn't and don't have that.

Many differences in the world are more belief oriented and have nothing to do with race. When you say that most differences are race oriented, that is an American statement.

You sound fairly worldly and that is good, but remember that we take our American acculturated views into our world views and they color them a bit, all puns intended.

Most of the world, AFRICA lives mostly a black oriented existence with little 'other race' contact. Same goes for China and India.........large groups of people watch and buy our movies, etc, but it doesn't mean that they necessarily want to be us, other than economically us.

My hosted foreign students don't want to be us, they pity us. They are from many nations. They may date Americans out of curiosity when they first arrive, but soon jump back into a culture that they comprehend or they peruse other minority Americans out of curiosity.

Youth is like that.

Men all over the world like all women all over the world and will chase them all over the world when given the opportunity, I think.

Cultural differences are huge, too, not race so much. Economics, beliefs, and culture.........and age, youth is more experimental everywhere.

Thoughtful blog post and fun to read. Thanks

 

posted by benzinha on September 9, 2008 at 2:39 PM | link to this | reply

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The way I perceive it. Race in the media and schools and in public discussion is quite a hairy topic greatly policed by political-correct fear-mongers.

I travel around the world and at least in the US and Europe it seems to me most taboo unless you have a strict politically correct discussion. Or unless others around you are relaxed and open to hearing the complexities of the issues without worrying if they offend people or not.

As far as Obama goes to me he fits a lot of negative stereo-types judging by his church and his affiliations with people I find undesirable. Not to mention him and his wifes comments before they got too famous. It's easy to understand why blacks are voting for him. Why whites are voting for him shows extreme naivete. Not to mention his true political mind is Marxist/far-leftist and that is not to my taste. You can dig into my old blogs and find plenty of stuff on him but you may be horrified. But if he gets elected I could care less as I will continue to surf and travel and enjoy a life the way I do now.

I live in california, which is quite "progressive" as someone like you would probably say. It's funny you should mention the South. I think they're so ridiculous about being afraid to look racist...I can remember a co-worker of mine reading an Abraham Lincoln book. His sole motive was to not look like a racist. What ridiculous guilt complex he and so many of them have.

posted by mordent on September 7, 2008 at 7:18 PM | link to this | reply

"Race is an obsession throughout the world. The most controversial/taboo subject the planet knows". YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS?

I can't help but wonder where you live since you don't have a profile. I'm guessing southern state. I don't think race has been an "taboo" subject for quite some time. In any case, if you really feel this way, having Obama in the White House should prove to be quite interesting for you.........Namaste

posted by ZenMom on September 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM | link to this | reply