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here's the graph
http://www.blogit.com/Blogs/Blog.aspx/westwend9593/559726

posted by Xeno-x on August 20, 2008 at 1:21 PM | link to this | reply

here is the analogy from the past you overlook -- correlation between co2 &

temps

Go to MY GRAPH AND WRITEROFLIGHT'S GRAPH DON'T DISAGREE THAT MUCH 

posted by Xeno-x on August 20, 2008 at 1:19 PM | link to this | reply

the graph i use shows differently from your statement re: co2 & warming

posted by Xeno-x on August 20, 2008 at 1:15 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: When all else fails . . .
Yes, increased domestic production of oil will increase supply, and decrease the price.  But don't ignore time constants.  It will take several years to get any new oil out of undeveloped oil fields.  Oh, and the basic physics of the greenhouse effect is not erroneous.  It's just one part of a complex equation.  But the hysteria should be toned down.  I haven't disagreed with many Nobel Prizes, but Gore's . . . ?

posted by mousehop on August 20, 2008 at 6:52 AM | link to this | reply

Re: When all else fails . . .
That's exactly what Dr. Spencer is addressing - the erroneous physics and other science behind the "global warming" hysteria.  You're partially right re oil - I'd add that, if supply outstrips demand, the price drops. That's why increased domestic drilling will help lower prices.

posted by WriterofLight on August 19, 2008 at 8:01 PM | link to this | reply

When all else fails . . .

so, if we have no analogies from the past, and we know that CO2 is rising, very possibly from human activity, are we not left with basic physics in determining the effect of this increase?  Clearly, climate-level effects are complex functions, and one can postulate both negative and positive feedback systems.  For example, cloud formation may increase reflectivity or absorbance.  No one knows which.  And increased absorbance means more energy, which means more water vapor, which means more absorbance. (Excluding cloud formation effects).  So what should we conclude?

We don't know if human activity is causing the current warming trend, but we do know the price of oil will rise as long as demand rises, so we have definite incentive to decrease fossil fuel consumption and increase energy use efficiency.  And stopping global warming may be a positive side effect.  Or it may not.  But it's worth a try.

posted by mousehop on August 19, 2008 at 1:12 PM | link to this | reply