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Re: I'm with King on this
I've just realized I spelt your name wrong! Kooka--I'm sorry! My fingers are a bit out of control at times...

posted by Sira890 on July 30, 2008 at 8:54 AM | link to this | reply

I'm with King on this

Americans need to start actively searching out alternative fuel sources--we all do, for that matter. And since necessity is the mother of invention, it only makes sense that having higher gas prices would prompt some real efforts in finding those new resources.

Gradual is the key here, I think--a steady increase over time. Something that would allow the people time to adjust and change their schedules, and get used to walking to the store instead of driving.

On that note, I think I'll take a drive over to the 7-11

 

PS--Kooda, I really don't like Obama or what he stands for. This is one of few issues that I think he got right.

posted by Sira890 on July 29, 2008 at 7:12 PM | link to this | reply

RSM, Here in America we waste too much fuel. We can conserve and keep
the budget.  I was never more pleased than when I saw my daughter begin to conserve and ride-share, walk and cut trips.  We all can do that.  Unfortunately, in a free market economy, no one stops to think about the environment until it's too late, or until it hurts.

posted by kingmi on June 25, 2008 at 6:12 PM | link to this | reply

RSM
With Obama's tax plan it is 250k that is the key amount.  I am unsure why you are using 55k to 75k as your example.  Those who are making that level should be unaffected by Obama's plans, or gain by them.  Everything Obama has been saying is about giving the middle and lower class a break.
 
As for the gay marriage issue, he has said he does not believe in it although he is all for civil unions. Also, he did not the support the Federal Marriage Amendment as well as other such actions to try and federally define marriage as being just between a man and a women, so he has shown that he will not try to get laws pushed against gay marriage but will instead allow the states themselves to deal with this issue, which is how it should be.  Basically he has expressed his opinions about gay marriage, but is not going to try and force his views about that on others.  That is the kind of thing he does to earn my respect.
 
Onto the Iran issue there.  The key is 'If the make a wrong move'.  If Iran actually shows itself to be a threat, then we need to go in.  Just like we needed to go into Afghanistan after 9/11. Which would have worked great if we actually went after Bin Laden and is his people, who attacked us.  No one in the whole world thought we were out of line for doing that.  Now when Bush decided to mess things up and go into Iraq before we were finished in Afghanistan, especially when there was no direct threat and had been no direct action against us, basically Iraq had made not 'wrong move', that caused problems.
 
Now of course we can go into a whole long thing about being proactive in order to keep our country safe and if that was really the case or not with Iraq, but we've done that dance already and there really is nothing of value in bringing all that up again.
 
Personally Iran is more likely to become a threat now because they know our military is spread thin and we would have a hard time getting it all together well enough to be able to deal wit them if they crossed a line.  It may be that we will have to just bomb them because we have no other choice thanks to being stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan like we are.
 
I am more for common sense thinking as well as upholding the ideas of freedom and following the guiding concepts that are found in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights above worrying about things being 'liberal' or not.   While I have been labeled a liberal, just because that seems to be the way my thinking leans, it does not mean that I have to follow all the stereotypical liberal ideas.
 
The reason I am going to vote for Obama and am very much supporting him is not because on any labels such as 'liberal' or 'democrat'.  I truly believe he is the better man for the office and that he will make changes that this country truly needs.  So for I have only voted for a democrat for president once and that was because I wanted Bush out of office more than I wanted Kerry to win.  But with Obama I really think he is what this country needs right now.

posted by kooka_lives on June 19, 2008 at 11:40 AM | link to this | reply

Re: RSM, I can only hope that you learn from my example here

I can only hope that this is what he would do if elected. I hope that he would not determine a family who has an income from 55k-75k rich. Not that those numbers are poor by any stretch of the imagination. I really do not think any of us have an honest idea of what it is like to be dirt poor. My parents lived during the Great Depression at the ages of 7-12 during that period. They remember what it is like to be dirt poor. IF Obama is elected, I hope that he will give us the middle class a break. This remains to be seen.

Two other issues that Obama has made his stances known are:

1. He is against gay marriage.

2. He is for attacking or bombing Iran and others if they make the wrong moves.

Your ideas on this Kooka? You must admit that these do not sound like a liberal. Do they? I would be very interested in your response.

 

 

posted by RedStatesMan on June 18, 2008 at 7:52 PM | link to this | reply

And that should be 'Obama's plan', not 'Ocala's plan' in my last comment
I think spell check messed me up on that one.

posted by kooka_lives on June 18, 2008 at 10:18 AM | link to this | reply

RSM, I can only hope that you learn from my example here
And try to write such comments yourself in reply to my posts.  If we BOTH try we can be civil to each other, but such a thing has to come from both sides to work.
 
If Ocala's plan are carried out he will practically eliminate income tax for low income America and basically create a system that will greatly benefit the working class. Only Americans earning more than $250,000 a year will be directly effected by the tax cuts expiring. The extra tax money would then go into programs to ease the needs of the working class be supplementing health care prices and such. This of course will allow the working class to have more disposable income, which has historically been a very important factor is a healthy economy.  The more disposable income the working class has, the better the whole of the economy is.

posted by kooka_lives on June 18, 2008 at 7:45 AM | link to this | reply

Re: I don't 'believe' in a politician

This is the best reply you have ever writtten here on blogit. You stated facts, stated your stance and not once did you go on the attack and calling people's names. I commend and applaud your response.

So I will respond by saying that I do not agree because I feel that Obama's tax proposals will affect more of the middle class than many expect. They say that middle class is classified monetarily between 40k-100k per year. I have heard variations on these numbers. I am around the center of that range and expect I will be affected by Obama's taxes. Only time will tell.

Again thank you for a well written rebutal. Excellent reply and thought prevoking!

posted by RedStatesMan on June 17, 2008 at 7:45 PM | link to this | reply

I don't 'believe' in a politician
That is really nothing close to anything I said here.  I believe that Obama is the better choice fro president.  Although I have admitted that this time instead of voting against someone (Like I did in 2004 against Bush),  I am voting for someone who I think is going to be what this country needs.
 
If you actually look at the facts, Obama is not going to introduce any new business taxes.  He will let the Bush tax cuts lapse, and according to the top economist that will have little impact on how businesses are running.
 
Now if those tax cuts actually did what they were suppose to do, I might be side with you. They were suppose to be used to increase the working class wages and benefits.  But instead what we have seen is a decrease in the average working class pay at a time when so many companies started to report record profits.  That tells me that the tax cuts did nothing at all to help the working class.  All that happened was the tax cuts were put into the bottom line profits to artificially inflate stock prices and give some CEOs bigger bonuses.
 
Now Obama has gone and worked on legislations that is more along the lines of what these tax cuts should have been.  Basically he has put into action tax cuts that are rewarded to companies who actually are helping to build up the US economy.  He seems to believe that you don't give blanket tax cuts, but you reward companies who are home based in the US and are doing their part to help the US working class.  That is the kind of thinking I want in the next president.  Not someone who is going to follow with what has been shown to not be helping this country out over the last eight years.

posted by kooka_lives on June 16, 2008 at 7:31 PM | link to this | reply

Re: You are so clueless
You do not believe in God but you believe in a politican. Amazing. Even I am skeptical of Republicans as well. Geesh man you need help!Once Obama taxes businesses, I am sure they will be so happy to be encouraged by him to do something. Right, pal. Dream on in your little liberal fantasy world. We need a man not some inexperienced chap!

posted by RedStatesMan on June 16, 2008 at 7:00 PM | link to this | reply

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God, I love Quakers! Thanks and I could not agree more. You would think a Democrat would proclaim that they will STOP the high price of gas but he simply states he desired it to be gradual. Is this a solution? The guy simply has no substance. I am not saying that McCain has a lot but he certainly has more experience than Obama.

posted by RedStatesMan on June 16, 2008 at 6:54 PM | link to this | reply

You are so clueless
Obama makes sense here.  What he says is true. We would have been better off with a gradual increase than the sudden jump if gas was going to get this high anyway.  How can anyone with half a brain not understand such a simple truth?
 
And what is wrong with encouraging?  What is wrong with thinking?
 
Yes, we know Bush does not think before he acts.  Yes we know that Bush does not worry about the consequences of his actions. And Bush clearly does not care at all about the needs of the people. You continued defense of Bush clearly shows the real reason you dislike Obama.
 
He will be everything Bush is not, which is what we need.
 
He is going to not make rash decisions that are going to hurt this country.  Instead his is going to think about what he is doing and in the end do what is right and best for the people of this country.  So far that seems to be what his is using as the driving force behind his campaigning.  He is saying he will think and then act so that there is improvement for all.
 
Of course we have McCain who so far has said he will just follow up doing everything Bush had been doing and not really stop to think about it all.  He wants to keep on this great path that is driving prices up and wages down while encouraging Big Businesses to help keep prices up and wages down.

posted by kooka_lives on June 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM | link to this | reply

I am troubled by this thought. It is like we expect things to go about astronomically and accept it. And for the life of me, lawyers represent and fight to prove this case or my FAVORITE plea bargain. I am lost!  sam

posted by sam444 on June 16, 2008 at 9:18 AM | link to this | reply

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