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I'm not familiar with Boumedienne...
but if the republican in the white house isn't a bully and a tyrant, then he's doing a dead on imitation of one. I'm looking this one up as soon as I'm off Blogit. And you're right, those SOB clues keep coming.
posted by
Pat_B
on June 16, 2008 at 4:49 AM
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saul
Prompted by your post, I have thought at length about this, and have not yet been able to arrive at an answer that would satisfy me, let alone others. Somewhere in that difficulty resides the key to this problem. It isn't
just Bush, for whom my regard is rather low...
posted by
Nautikos
on June 15, 2008 at 7:00 AM
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I don't think so, dark moon. These people being held -- some have been
detained for seven years without being charged. Hell, charge them already. Then try them. Then imprison them for life for acts of terrorism. But follow the letter of the law. Bush and the ideological Bobbleheads use these guys for their fearmongering, both internationally and domestically. (You see, they say, what happens when you mess with Bush? You are disappeared and wind up at Guantanamo.) These people running our country right now are f**king idiots. Put them on trial; make a big show of it. Just follow the laws of your land and the laws that you've agreed to internationally. Where's the problem? The Oval Office and the Bush administration's desire to posture and do as they please...
posted by
saul_relative
on June 15, 2008 at 6:07 AM
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You're not talking about Bush, are you, Kabu? LOL. The problem with
this type of detention is that it sets a precedent for the incarceration of anyone without due process. The Bush administration wanted to hold these people indefinitely outside the United States. Guantanamo is still Cuban. The Bush administration used that argument and the argument that those captured weren't U.S. citizens and not subject to our Constitution. That's bullshit. They're in U.S. custody and our soldiers are subject to our laws and international laws as well. They also used the argument that habeas corpus could be suspended in times of war or during invasion. Last time I checked we were in an undeclared conflict that we all call a war and we haven't been invaded since 1812, unless you count the illegal aliens and Bush doesn't seem to mind them... No, if you're going to detain someone for the rest of their lives, then do it, but do it legally. Hell, they're not even going kangaroo...
posted by
saul_relative
on June 15, 2008 at 6:00 AM
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Thanks, Mermaid...
posted by
saul_relative
on June 15, 2008 at 5:53 AM
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He'd be more strident than Patrick Henry and as eloquent as ever, TAPS.
Tyranny is tyranny, whether it be at the hands of an English madman or an American oligarchy with a cheerleader figurehead...
posted by
saul_relative
on June 15, 2008 at 5:52 AM
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...a tough issue all the way around it...moon 
posted by
magic_moon
on June 14, 2008 at 4:33 AM
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I just wonder how else to deal with a rogue human. When someone finds one
that actually works all of us will be better off but I don't know of anything real that works better than removing some people from society.
posted by
Kabu
on June 13, 2008 at 8:51 PM
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posted by
__Purple_Mermaid11__
on June 13, 2008 at 4:00 AM
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I wonder what Mr. Alexander Hamilton would write today if he were here to observe the goings on.
posted by
TAPS.
on June 13, 2008 at 2:02 AM
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