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Its called homogenization. Its why a lot of music nowadays is all sounding the same, even within genres. Some people say its a cycle or just how things work, but I happen to think its the care advertisers and marketers take to try to make something popular. they come up with a formula for things like music and art (because they want to make money), and try to sell things based on these formulas. Which really sucks because music and art aren't formulic, they're supposed to be self-expression and the free-thinking of a set of individuals.

I recommed going underground; find some bands that will and always will be touring bands, indie bands, and nothing more. My picks for your perusal: Modest Mouse, Wide Spread Panic, and the Wicked Screaming Squirts.

Peace and ROCK ON

-ek  

posted by Ekildog on November 6, 2003 at 2:18 PM | link to this | reply

For a standard band to make bank on someone else's songwriting is lame since they can have any kind of vocalist and anyone in the band can be the creative force, but for R&B or soul music, or even pop, it's probably fairly rare that the person capable of performing the song is also the one who has the talent to or basic skill to write it. And with sampling, why is every groove doomed to the lyrics that were originally laid down on it. I thought 2-PAC's "the way it is" was much better than the original which has rather stale lyrics. I prefer to have the whole package in one artist like Dylan or Springsteen or Ben Weasel, but if someone can put energy into someone else's writing i don't think they've necessarily done a bad thing. 

posted by rovesciato on November 5, 2003 at 4:44 PM | link to this | reply

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  and besides that, you don't seem to be a very positve person......

posted by acey on November 5, 2003 at 8:42 AM | link to this | reply

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    Well, you didn't comment, you wrote a book, lol.

 

     You didn't really comment on what I had wrote, you kinda got off on your own little thing there. And I can't say I like you cracking down on linkin park. they use some loops, but they write all of their music, and Chester screams every note on tour.   The point I was making is simply, that there is no one dominant Genre today. Which is true.    Your comment was out in left field.  Although I do share your feelings about people who don't write their own music. I do hate that.

posted by acey on November 5, 2003 at 8:40 AM | link to this | reply

It sure is pretty incredible...

But I don't agree with you good sir, no matter how many people love MTV, M2, VH1, CMT and the countless others. So it seems to have a wide genre range... But does it really?

Let's start with CMT since I don't know much about it. Country! That's about it as far as I know. Makes sense, being the Country Music Television or what have you.

VH1 is nothing more than a top 40 channel. Pop, rock, and sometimes rap. Aside from a few TV shows that aren't videos, they offer nothing more than the top 40 for the month. And on occasion a top 40 video sometimes from as far back as the 80s.

MTV is... well... Crap! At the very least, %60 of their videos today is considered "Rap" by idiots like 50 Cent, and others who's names I don't care to remember. %99 of those videos are gangster wanna be's being cool with pimping, guns, cars, and HUNDREDS of mostly naked women.. everywhere! With the exception with a few songs and groups, like Black Eyed Pea's, this Genre on MTV is the sell out of what it was ten years ago and quite frankly- for any thinking human being with actual taste- disgusting. How about Pop? That's not far off. The "Pop Divas" are %98 of the time, nothing more than the mostly naked backup dancers that can actually be made to sound like they're singing! So nobody has to pimp them out, 'cuz they're already slutty enough to entice the young male population into buying their music and looking up fake naked pictures of them on the internet.

And how about "Rock" these days?! Christ on a cracker! Half of this crap is studio manufactured- like Linkin Park- they're completely studio. If we didn't have todays technology- they'd have never made it as what they are now. So it's manufactured, and thus one group sounds exactly the same as another! Do they say anything different? NO. (Not that it was much better in the 80's with hair bands, but there's a small difference...) Slipknot sounds the same as Mudvayne which sounds something like Limp Bizkit on steroids who sounds like Korn with a different voice who sounds like POD with a nicer message and on and on and on. There is on occasion a real work of art, but if you look at all these candy pop punk bands? There's NOTHING good I can say about them. They're anywhere from 16-25 and they all SUCK! Punk was neat, like when Green Day had new stuff out. But Blink 182 set the trend, and since them, eeeeverybody sounds like everybody and everybody calling themselves a Punk Band needs to be shot. Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, AFI, Sum 41, Blink 182 these days, and a handful of others I can't recall but all sound the same. As for the "New" Metallica... I won't even go there. All I can say is I hope they never play their instruments again in view of the public.

And most of these I've bitched about... Most of these guys, and females... Don't even write their own crap! There's something called The Matrix in todays music industry where it's a group of writers that sit down and write peoples albums! Like, Avril Lavine. She wrote about eight lines total on her first debut album. Most pop singers don't write much of anything and if it written, like maybe by Linkin Park, they destroy any idea of music when they mix it all. Where Chester Bennington sings a few lines and has to take a break because his throat hurts from singing like that- so he can never do it live on tour on a regular basis. Hmm.

So yes, you are right! We have a very wide range these days, across all sorts of genre's. However, most of the time it's like looking through a range of bathroom stalls. It's all shit, there are only different kinds. And maybe sometimes you find a wallet somebody left behind. That's about it for me.

posted by TheBlackPencil on November 4, 2003 at 6:10 PM | link to this | reply