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MyrddinWyllt, yes, compassion is really what is needed...like I've
mentioned, I have many friends in this sort of movement and I try to be a friend and listen...they usually don't care to hear about what the Bible says, but I tell them anyway since they're quick to share their channeled materials with me
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Ariala
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February 24, 2008
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Jacenta, glad you were warned by them...I have many friends in it, and
it's hard to reach them
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Ariala
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February 24, 2008
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thoughfulness, thanks for commenting...I did not know that about Ann.
There's a lot of that channeling going around these days...
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Ariala
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February 24, 2008
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My experience
I've worked through this course in miracles some 20 od years ago: The results are in direct contrast with a teaching that requires us to take responsibility for our actions and thoughts. The result is that you regard yourself as God just like Lucifer has done, and then you fall from grace and need to climb the stairway to heaven all over again. We need to become like Jesus and be a brother(sister) among the many children of God and give ourselves over to God completely before God opens our eyes to Reality and saves us by Grace, after a lot of hard work on fine tuning our own hearts and minds under the guidance of the teaching of loving kindness. It would actually be very educational to see Oprah do the whole thing and come crashing down in the end. She is in the right position to be an excellent example of the failure of the Luciferian way to deliver on any of it's promises to the whole world. Have Compassion on her, she's going to need lots of Love soon.
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AardigeAfrikaner
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February 24, 2008
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Ariala
I was warned of the New Age Movement through a Round Robin writing Group many years ago.
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jacenta
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February 23, 2008
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Always uplifting......Oprah what now? Has she lost her senses?
If this wasn't so scary, I would have to laugh. Ann Heche,?sp. Ellen's old flame once claimed a spirit would enter her body and speak of a new enlightenment or some crap, (reminds me of this) anyway she changed voices a bit and posture, then rambled on about who needs to be valued, you do indeed. Who needs to be worshiped, you do indeed. That was plenty for me. There is no sin? One last thing, a comment I read saying that if God did exist, I'm sure he doesn't judge us. Wish I had replied, If God does exist, you should hope he does judge us. "As long as God's in everything, lalala"
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thoughtfulness
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February 23, 2008
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mariaki, yes, that principle seems to apply very well here too! Thanks!
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Ariala
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February 23, 2008
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One more thing, this is why we have to have a foundation..."new revelation"
is constantly being "channeled" in by demonic presences claiming to be God, Jesus and a bunch of the apostles, etc. The Bible makes it clear, "If they speak not according to THIS WORD, there is no light in them."
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Ariala
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February 23, 2008
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Corbin, wow, thanks...I didn't know Oprah was buying all that...a client
I had a few years ago was trying to push that book on me and when I shared the true Christ with her she went ballastic on me. It was incredibly disturbing...so much for "peace" LOL
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Ariala
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February 23, 2008
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Taken from then original teachings of the LOA
"For whoever has, to him shall more be given, and he shall have an abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has shall be taken away from him. Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand." Psalm 115:16
Thank you & take care
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mariaki
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February 23, 2008
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Re: Corbin, you can paste it below, if you'd like...but if it's of the same
You can delete it after you've looked it over.......
Read this and then check it out on Oprah's website on the first link
below
the article.
*"Oprah and Friends" To Teach Course on New Age Christ*
Oprah Winfrey will be letting out all the stops on her XM Satellite
Radio
program this coming year. Beginning January 1, 2008, "Oprah &
Friends"
will offer a year-long course on the New Age teachings of A Course in
Miracles. A lesson a day throughout the year will completely cover the
365
lessons from the Course in Miracles "Workbook."
For example, Lesson 29 asks you to go through your day affirming that
"/God is in everything I see/."
Lesson 61 tells each person to repeat the affirmation
"/I am the light of the world/."
Lesson 70 teaches the student to say and believe
"/My salvation comes from me/."
By the end of the year, "Oprah & Friends" listeners will have completed
all
of the lessons laid out in the Course in MiraclesWorkbook.
*Those who finish the Course will have a wholly redefined spiritual
mindset-a New Age worldview that includes the belief that there is no
sin,
no evil, no devil, and that God is "in" everyone and everything.*
A Course in Miracles teaches its students to rethink everything they
believe
about God and life.
*The Course Workbook bluntly states: "This is a course in mind training"
and
is dedicated to "thought reversal."*
Teaching A Course in Miracles will be Oprah's longtime friend and
special
XM Satellite Radio reporter Marianne Williamson who also happens to be
one
of today's premier New Age leaders. She and "Conversations with God"
author Neale Donald Walsch co-founded the American Renaissance Alliance
in
1997, that later became the Global Renaissance Alliance of New Age
leaders, that changed its name again in 2005 to the Peace Alliance.
This
Peace Alliance seeks to usher in an era of global peace founded on
the
principles of a New Age/New Spirituality that they are now referring to
as
a "civil rights movement for the soul." They all agree that the
principles
of this New Age/New Spirituality are clearly articulated in A Course
in
Miracles-which is fast becoming the New Age Bible.
So what is A Course in Miracles and what does it teach?
A Course in Miracles is allegedly "new revelation" from "Jesus" to
help
humanity work through these troubled times. This "Jesus" who bears no
doctrinal resemblance to the Bible's Jesus Christ beg an delivering
his
channeled teachings in 1965 to a Columbia University Professor of
Medical
Psychology by the name of Helen Schucman. One day Schucman heard an
"inner
voice" stating, "This is a course in miracles. Please take notes .
" For seven years she diligently took spiritual dictation from this
inner
voice that described himself as "Jesus." A Course in Miracles was
quietly
published
in 1975 by the Foundation for Inner Peace. For many years "the Course"
was
an underground cult classic for New Age seekers who studied "the
Course"
individually, with friends, or in small study groups.
*Here are some quotes from the "Jesus" of A Course in Miracles:*
* "There is no sin. . . "
* A "slain Christ has no meaning."
* "The journey to the cross should be the last 'useless journey."
* "Do not make the pathetic error of 'clinging to the old rugged
cross.'"
* "The Name of Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol... It is a symbol
that
is safely used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods
to
which you pray."
* "God is in everything I see."
* "The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself."
* "The oneness of the Creator and the creation is your wholeness,
your
sanity and your limitless power."
* "The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it
teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of
salvation."
Most Christians recognize that these teachings are the opposite of what
the
Bible teaches. At this critical time in the history of the world, the
New
Gospel/New Spirituality is coming right at the world and the church with
its
New Age teachings and its New Age Peace Plan.
But this New Age Peace Plan has at its deceptive core the bottom-line
teaching from A Course in Miracles that "we are all one" because God is
"in"
everyone and everything.
*But our Bible is clear that we are not God (Ezekiel 28:2; Hosea
11:9).
And per Galatians 3:26-28, our only oneness is in Jesus Christ-not in
ourselves as "God" and "Christ."*
What Oprah and Marianne Williamson and the world will learn one day
is that humanity's only real and lasting peace is with the true Jesus
Christ
who is described and quoted in the Holy Bible (Romans5:1).
Oprah Winfrey's misplaced faith in Marianne Williamson and the New
Age
teachings of A Course in Miracles is a sure sign of the times. But an
even
surer sign of the times is that most Christians are not taking heed to
what
is happening in the world and in the church. We are not contending for
the
faith as the Bible admonishes us to do (Jude 3).
It is time for all of our Purpose-Driven and Emerging church pastors
to
address the real issue of the day. Our true Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
is
being reinvented, redefined, and blasphemed right in front of our eyes
and
hardly anyone seems to notice or care. If we want the world to know
who
Jesus Christ is, we need to also warn them about who He is not.
There is a false New Age "Christ" making huge inroads into the world
and
into the church. The Apostle Paul said that "it is a shame" we have to
even
talk about these things, but talk about them we must (Ephesians
5:12-16)
If people want to follow Oprah Winfrey and the New Age "Christ" of A
Course
in Miracles they certainly have that right. But let them be warned that
the
New Age "Christ" they are following is not the same Jesus Christ who is
so
clearly and authoritatively presented in the pages of the Bible.
*I believe that the faithful Oprah followers will hang on every word of
the
teachings. This is Scary stuff!
Please warn your friends and family to stay away from Oprah's teachings.
And
let us all pray for Oprah. I think that she really thinks that she is
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
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February 23, 2008
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Corbin, you can paste it below, if you'd like...but if it's of the same
mumbo jumbo, I have heard it before, just not from Oprah
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Ariala
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February 23, 2008
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Corbin, oh, yes, sounds like my friends at work...they believe the
same thing...from a Christian standpoint, the New Age version of Jesus Consciousness is Luciferian thinking at its best...I totally disagree with this movement and their foundational thoughts on Christ and the Bible. However, just like every other philosophy, they have some truths...the law of attraction is one of them...but unfortunately, the Christians throw it out cause it's presented in New Age circles, just like the New Agers throw out the scriptures I just shared cause it's from the Bible.
Truth seekers find truth no matter where it's from, and try to follow it. Thanks for sharing!
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Ariala
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February 23, 2008
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Re: Corbin, no, I haven't?
I know your policy.....but I have an e-mail, I'd like you to read......I could paste it as a comment and then you could copy it...with the two links......then delete my comment so it would throw you post off topic.
I would be interested in your take on what she is doing......
here's an excerpt....
Here are some quotes from the "Jesus" of A Course in Miracles:*
* "There is no sin. . . "
* A "slain Christ has no meaning."
* "The journey to the cross should be the last 'useless journey."
* "Do not make the pathetic error of 'clinging to the old rugged
cross.'"
* "The Name of Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol... It is a symbol
that
is safely used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods
to
which you pray."
* "God is in everything I see."
* "The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself."
* "The oneness of the Creator and the creation is your wholeness,
your
sanity and your limitless power."
* "The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it
teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation."
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
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February 23, 2008
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Yeshuan, thanks!
posted by
Ariala
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February 23, 2008
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Corbin, no, I haven't?
posted by
Ariala
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February 23, 2008
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Ariala,
this is an excellent reminder to focus on priorities and to consider what direction our thoughts and choices are taking us.
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Yeshuan
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February 23, 2008
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Ariala.....
Have you seen any of the new articles about Oprah's conversion to the New Age pseudo-Christianity?
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Corbin_Dallas
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February 23, 2008
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