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WOW
You've gone all the way back to the bigining. Cool

posted by kooka_lives on April 16, 2004 at 2:12 PM | link to this | reply

Yes, Kooka, I've read back this far...

 

posted by Gheeghee on April 15, 2004 at 6:28 PM | link to this | reply

kooka

The way I am reading your blogs makes me wonder if you are merely interested in using this "soap box" to air your beliefs without being interested in any other viewpoint.  Am I wrong?  You appear to be quite intelligent.  Are you willing to enter into a polite discussion on what each of us believes about God?  I would love to discuss this with you but I don't like to discuss God with persons who have a "bitterroot" to their arguments and are not willing to listen, but only want to be forceful and offensive on their standpoint.  I am willing to listen.  I believe in God and the divinity of His Son Jesus, but I also know that God made us to think and have free choice.  If this would be of interest to you,  would you consider using email?  Or we could write our discussion points, each in our own blog. I'm not sure the comment section is the right venue for an extensive discussion such as these things can be.  Let me know if you are interested, I'd love to hear what you have to say and discuss some things with you. 

posted by Cosette on October 21, 2003 at 8:13 PM | link to this | reply

kooka

truth be known, at the time I wrote that comment, I thought you were perhaps another blogger on the BN who is self-declared pothead, because sometimes people masquerade as others on here, and the way you were writing sounded like that person.  As for ignorance, I never said I thought you were ignorant because you didn't believe in God but because you dismissed my argument about the media offhandedly. And when I listed the three criteria for those who were anti-fundamentalist, I was referring to those whose blogs I had seen, and since yours wasn't even started at the time, there was no category for it. I  was only categorizing the people who had written those particular blogs, not all anti-fundamentalists.

posted by Inkling on October 21, 2003 at 7:01 PM | link to this | reply

I like a good challange
What I want to express is that we who are not religious are not ignorant, which is what I have felt that you nad others have been trying to say. I know I have studies religions and have made a very conscious choice as to what I believe. I decided to not believe in God because of the knowledge I have and what I have learned in my life.
And just so you know most of the pot heads I have known have believed in God, so I really think that was a poor assumption on your part.

posted by kooka_lives on October 21, 2003 at 6:14 PM | link to this | reply

Kooka, I agree with you
about love and family--I just happen to think that God is love and that he is the one who designed the family.  I'm sorry if I offended you earlier.  I never meant to insult your intelligence--just to challenge you as you were challenging me. 

posted by Inkling on October 21, 2003 at 6:06 PM | link to this | reply

I've heard that
But,I don't believe it. You can do studies to prove just about anything. In fact the woman who said she would pray for my mother tlaked those same studies and I said nothing, because I wanted to be polite.
Like i siad, I don't buy it.
I believe that family and love is the strongest part of recovery and that is what is needed. I think there is a level where those who pray are also going to be there for a person and that will make the biggest difference.
I also believe that stuff likfe prayer and magic works for those who believe in it. I'll most likely go into my ideas on that in a future blog

posted by kooka_lives on October 21, 2003 at 5:55 PM | link to this | reply

actually scientific studies have demonstrated

that patients have a significantly higher recovery rate when other people are praying for them, whether they are aware of the prayer or not.  There was a blind study with two groups, one being prayed for and one not (neither group was aware of which group they were in), and the people who were prayed for had dramatically better outcomes.  I can get the details if you like, but every so often I see the results of these kind of studies being published in scientific journals and reprinted in article form in periodicals like Reader's Digest and Newsweek.

posted by Inkling on October 21, 2003 at 5:30 PM | link to this | reply