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You're right, draco, and you're welcome...

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 7:58 PM | link to this | reply

Damn those yakkety yaks! Hairy and smelly and way too talkative, but
what great cheese their milk makes!!

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 7:57 PM | link to this | reply

meh. that woman's a nutjob. i dont know why people even listen to her.

thanks for your comment.

posted by draco101 on October 28, 2007 at 6:11 PM | link to this | reply

Thank you! I hadn't thought about that..."So, tell us about your
experience as a yak handler, Ms. Z...."  'well, it's all right, except that I couldn't get them to stop yakking and get back to work. " 

posted by Zena77 on October 28, 2007 at 2:12 PM | link to this | reply

That's alright, TAPS. We can't all be Bill Cosby... LOL>...

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 2:06 PM | link to this | reply

It'll look great on a resume, Zena. A true talking point...

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 2:05 PM | link to this | reply

Saul_relative
I think I got carried away on the pudding.  Sorry.  

posted by TAPS. on October 28, 2007 at 1:12 PM | link to this | reply

Well, I suppose they're not mutually exclusive, Saul,
Something like a sherpa in the mountains, with a yak.  You can't be blamed if a tourist doesn't follow directions and falls off a cliff.  Good idea. i like that one. Let's go with Yak Handler, as well as Pudding Server.

posted by Zena77 on October 28, 2007 at 1:06 PM | link to this | reply

Hmmmm. Perhaps, 'tis in the blood, then, TAPS? Are we being
symbolic or pointing out the disgusting nature of pudding?  LOL>...

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 1:01 PM | link to this | reply

Sometimes it is better to be a guide, Zena. No culpability...

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 12:56 PM | link to this | reply

Saul_relative
I give you, as example, the great Haggis Puddin' of Robert Burns.

posted by TAPS. on October 28, 2007 at 12:49 PM | link to this | reply

ROFLMAO, Saul, I'm the one who called myself "servant of puddingness".
I like the idea of a middleman, though. More like an agent or broker.  This is getting silly, but fun.

posted by Zena77 on October 28, 2007 at 12:33 PM | link to this | reply

Sorry, Zena, I should have also thrown in that I do not mean to imply that
you were either of the two.  Perhaps a middleman of sorts in the transaction of access to pudding wherein exists the proof? 

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 12:30 PM | link to this | reply

Saul, I'm trying to make the distinction between "servant" and "server"
Servant, as in one who fulfills the wishes of another, or needs.   "Server" as in one who dishes up food?  Hmm.

posted by Zena77 on October 28, 2007 at 12:24 PM | link to this | reply

I don't know, TAPS. Experience is what you make it. Or is that "make of
it."  Hmmmm. 

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM | link to this | reply

The distinction is noted between "servant" and "server", Zena.
Damn! I guess I'll have to settle for hasty pudding and you know what they say about "haste". 

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 12:21 PM | link to this | reply

Hello, I go away for two minutes to fix more tea, and I miss the good stuff

Omniscient pudding? Is that like the Blanc Mange That Stole Wimbledon that Monty Python did a skit on years ago?   

I guess it would "Oh, Great Pudding.."   I'm sorry I can't pass you some of the mystical pudding, Oh seeker of puddingness.  The pudding must reveal itself to you.  I am but it's humble servant.

posted by Zena77 on October 28, 2007 at 12:10 PM | link to this | reply

Saul_relative
You might want to pass on that pudding.  The proof is not always what you expect it to be.

posted by TAPS. on October 28, 2007 at 12:01 PM | link to this | reply

Hey, Zena, I keep hearing tales of this omniscient pudding. Where can
I get some?  LOL

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 11:57 AM | link to this | reply

Saul, in the final analysis, when you say his friends and family respected

him and loved him dearly, what more could you ask for?  In any afterlife that theoretically exists, that's what counts, the kindness.  In my personal experience, I regret most being unkind and I remember being deeply hurt and offended by others unkindness, not what they or I purport to believe.

And who cares what I believe?  The proof is in the pudding. 

posted by Zena77 on October 27, 2007 at 10:58 PM | link to this | reply

One of the most decent people I've ever known was an unassuming
carpenter and coal miner -- my grandfather.  Outside of his friends and family, who respected and loved the man dearly, I doubt if much was known of the man...

posted by saul_relative on October 27, 2007 at 10:49 PM | link to this | reply

I'd stand very far from the platform, but just close enough to get a good
look, Saul.  Indeed, the more I know about ideology, the less I care about any of them.  The people who genuinely practice what is just considered decent human behavior, usually do it without a lot of fanfare. 

posted by Zena77 on October 27, 2007 at 10:23 PM | link to this | reply

When extremes go too far, Zena, we see that they are almost
identical in oppression of the populace, just different in ideological pursuits.  Yeah, Paglia and Coulter would be a howl, if you could keep them from killing each other.  Of course, that would be entertaining as well, the one time you'd get to see it... 

posted by saul_relative on October 27, 2007 at 10:19 PM | link to this | reply

Saul, wouldn't it be a hoot if Ann Coulter and Camille Paglia got together
and took their acts on the road, right v. left?  I am scared of both of them, but it would make for some good tv.

posted by Zena77 on October 27, 2007 at 9:12 PM | link to this | reply

It may have already played out, Zena. I haven't heard or read anything new
on it since the day after I wrote that post.  Methinks maybe Coulter's obnoxious currency is being denied buying power.  This can only be a good thing.  Now, if we could just get someone or something, like a lifetime case of laryngitis, for her pal, Sean Hannity...

posted by saul_relative on October 27, 2007 at 8:49 PM | link to this | reply

Saul, Ann Coulter, now THERE'S a piece of work
It's sad when "attention hos" get what they're craving.  How long is this schtick going to play?

posted by Zena77 on October 27, 2007 at 4:59 PM | link to this | reply

Even prettier...

posted by saul_relative on October 25, 2007 at 9:54 PM | link to this | reply

ur welcome
Citrus Burst Rose Bouquet

posted by star4sky5 on October 25, 2007 at 9:06 PM | link to this | reply

A beautiful bouquet, 7stars. Thank you...

posted by saul_relative on October 25, 2007 at 9:03 PM | link to this | reply

FlowerShopping.com, Mission Viejo, California - 12 Orange Roses, picture

posted by star4sky5 on October 25, 2007 at 8:53 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks, Kayzzaman...

posted by saul_relative on October 24, 2007 at 9:30 AM | link to this | reply

Kayzzaman
Good political comment, saul. Keep it up.

posted by Kayzzaman on October 24, 2007 at 4:54 AM | link to this | reply

Jews and Catholics haven't gotten along ever, just grudgingly coexisted
since the Holocaust.  Read Constantine's Sword.  The separation of church and state is paramount for any enlightened and progressive society to move forward.  Other than that, I see nothing wrong with cross-cultural integration...

posted by saul_relative on October 23, 2007 at 8:03 PM | link to this | reply

Saul--a necessary, balanced article. Right & Right: Christian-Jewish accord
has allowed the current administration to reshape the wordl intheir image...which will eventually conflict again, as Catholics and Jews did before the Reformation. You are so ruight...religion, outside of the church and home, is like a carbon footprint on Mother Earth. It may not always be visible and noticeable, but it is of little good. Better we have spirituality like so many Founding Fathers did with DEISM, than be simply "religious" in following a RELIGION! Amazing that the separationof Church and State was not debated, but accepted, as eminently fair and right for our Constitution. Were our Founding Fathers devils, or wrong, or stupid, or just better than us. Wall of separation bet. Ch & state...YES, after all the walls we have between races, groups, nations...to keep the peace. Good work, Saul-Relative

posted by ILLUMINATI8 on October 23, 2007 at 5:41 PM | link to this | reply

That's alright, Naut. I've been keeping up with your series. It's rather
good.  You know, Christians and Muslims are forever hellbent on conversion.  I have yet to meet a Jew who has tried to convert me.  Same god, different attitude.

posted by saul_relative on October 23, 2007 at 12:18 PM | link to this | reply

Saul
I didn't think it was such a big deal to begin with! As SFM correctly observes, it's something that is deeply imbedded in Christian thought. But of course, giving voice to it these days is dangerous...In fact, it's something I will probably be making reference to in my current series, unfortunately without the resulting increase in book sales...

posted by Nautikos on October 23, 2007 at 6:09 AM | link to this | reply

I totally agree, food4thought. I offer the same conclusion in my post.

posted by saul_relative on October 21, 2007 at 9:26 PM | link to this | reply

I have to agree...
With Superfly Mom 119, Ann Coulter is looking our for Ann Coulter's book sales and the more controversy she stirs up, the more book sales she makes even though it's most likely to her primary audience.

posted by food4thought on October 21, 2007 at 9:03 PM | link to this | reply

You are probably right, jollyjeff. Also, there is the idea that comes to
mind that some of the material is staged, planted, etc....

posted by saul_relative on October 21, 2007 at 5:27 PM | link to this | reply

What, TAPS, and not sell as many books? No way. It's part of her appeal,
her being unappealing...

posted by saul_relative on October 21, 2007 at 5:26 PM | link to this | reply

I have a sneaking suspicion
That some of these things these pundits say are not even what they believe. They just say controversial things to get ratings, sell books ect.

posted by jollyjeff on October 21, 2007 at 11:06 AM | link to this | reply

Saul_relative
I think I must have read all that same information about her and her statements. But, I do like what you have added. Perfection is good to strive for but not likely to be achieved in this world. I know that's not what she meant, though. She is refering to "born again", "saved", "in Christ", whatever term one uses.  It seems that she could share her message without being quite as offensive as she often is.

posted by TAPS. on October 21, 2007 at 11:00 AM | link to this | reply

Unfortunately for me, katray, I'm just turned off...

posted by saul_relative on October 20, 2007 at 10:23 PM | link to this | reply

Good character study of the lady, Saul
She is something else indeed....:) Excellent points about religions too. I have a faith that transcends the earthly; but remain turned off by organized religion.

posted by Katray2 on October 20, 2007 at 8:35 AM | link to this | reply

Thanks, katzs...

posted by saul_relative on October 19, 2007 at 9:40 PM | link to this | reply

No doubt about it, Superfly.

posted by saul_relative on October 19, 2007 at 9:39 PM | link to this | reply

To sells well, one has to make some dramatic statements, which sometimes may not be true but I believe there might some half truths there. You have made some pretty good assessmentskatzs

posted by katzs on October 19, 2007 at 4:18 PM | link to this | reply

She's just trying to sell books...
by being controversial.  She didn't actually say anything horrible about Jews, she simply stated a common CHRISTIAN concept that the New Testament and Jesus Christ added to the belief system, would perfect it, or at least bring the two belief systems more into agreement.  The truth might hurt sometimes, but the reality is it is possible to respect another person's beliefs while disagreeing with the foundation of those beliefs.  I really didn't see what the big deal was, maybe thicker skin all around would be helpful.  By getting all outraged, you all play right into her true motivation, selling books.  If you don't want to see her succeed, don't feed into the buffet she lays out.  As it stands now, she'll make great book sales off of this situation, fueled on by those who say they don't like her.  That's the Superfly take on the matter anyway, later...

posted by superflymom119 on October 19, 2007 at 11:57 AM | link to this | reply

I think she secretly despises Buddhists, SoulBuilder. LOL. Who knows?
She's a rabble-rousing elitist with a false sense of enormous self-worth...

posted by saul_relative on October 19, 2007 at 11:38 AM | link to this | reply

You're welcome, richinstore...

posted by saul_relative on October 19, 2007 at 11:35 AM | link to this | reply

Saul R......
Pretty good assessment! Why didn't she target the MAJOR world religions?

posted by Soul_Builder101 on October 19, 2007 at 10:25 AM | link to this | reply

saul
thanks for sharing.

posted by richinstore on October 19, 2007 at 10:04 AM | link to this | reply