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Thanks, hagi! Oh, and I am a pagan...

posted by Nautikos on January 12, 2008 at 7:14 PM | link to this | reply

I am very pleased that an agnostic/atheist/whatever can feel respect for ancient Greek gods - I myself have long adored the appeal of Greek mythology, I remember when I was a little girl, I had a major inner struggle between Christianity (although I grew up in USSR where we were supposed to be raised as atheists, my family actually encouraged me to explore Christianity, although only my aunt went to church, others were more or less undecided) and Greek mythology - I thought, well, God sounds about as much believable as do ancient Greek myths, so I should choose... Should I? The first Commandment says I must.

Anyhow, at that time Christianity won because they had punishments for Pagans, but Greeks didn't have punishments for Christians (I was obviously stronger in mythology than in history). Now I'm not so easily scared so maybe I'll give polytheism a chance...

And the poem is beautiful.


posted by hagi on January 12, 2008 at 3:21 PM | link to this | reply

Re: This poem is, well, wonderful!
Thanks, Chyrlann, I only saw your comment today, or I would have thanked you earlier...

posted by Nautikos on November 6, 2007 at 4:07 PM | link to this | reply

This poem is, well, wonderful!
I haven't much time but became mesmerized in reading sdrawkcab, your series. Inept it is backwards going. I will be away for awhile so shall print and take them to absorb (as I did the first series you wrote this time last year) upon newly arriving.

posted by roadscross on October 17, 2007 at 6:08 PM | link to this | reply

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Thanks OTA, I appreciate approval from a real poet...

posted by Nautikos on September 27, 2007 at 9:00 AM | link to this | reply

Naut, I like your poem. It reminds me of your blogs where you have given details so vivid about your travels that I felt myself there. Pan is smiling I am sure. ~ Peace, OTA

posted by Blue_feathers on September 26, 2007 at 3:39 PM | link to this | reply

MandaLee
Thanks!

posted by Nautikos on September 25, 2007 at 4:05 PM | link to this | reply

EX
They were the first to really explore the human mind and soul...

posted by Nautikos on September 25, 2007 at 4:04 PM | link to this | reply

posted by Amanda__ on September 24, 2007 at 3:54 PM | link to this | reply

NAUT:

I read the Greek mythologies repeatedly. I am amazed at the imagination. It boggles the mind that what they wrote back them is still applicable today. Who has not had the experience of Sissyphus or Tantalus somtime in our lives? I look forward to reading your posts.

posted by EX_TURPI on September 24, 2007 at 7:18 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Naut, the Greeks had gods for just about everything, even "the unknown god"

Thanks, Rumored! Yep, it was quite an interesting crowd - I guess we have (well, some of us have, lol) downsized a bit... 

And no, I don't think 'geek' is etymologically related to 'Greek', but you have already done what you ought to have done, so I won't repeat it...

posted by Nautikos on September 24, 2007 at 4:18 AM | link to this | reply

Bhaskar
Thanks, Bhaskar! You're quite right, the gods play a 'fateful' role in Greek tragedy! And the tale of Oedipus, of course, is archetypical in our own psychology, particularly Freudian psychoanalytical theory, though rejected by many as 'non-scientific'... 

posted by Nautikos on September 24, 2007 at 4:11 AM | link to this | reply

Soul
Thanks! Yes, it does...

posted by Nautikos on September 24, 2007 at 4:01 AM | link to this | reply

Krisles
Thanks for the compliment! As for Pan, who is probaly the oldest god, he is many ways the most interesting. He is certainly closest to non-human nature, and might be seen as transitionary, the human arising out of the non-human - he is, after all, still half goat...

posted by Nautikos on September 24, 2007 at 4:00 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Great poem, Nautikos
Thanks, TAPS. Why don't you? From the 'inside', as it were?

posted by Nautikos on September 24, 2007 at 3:53 AM | link to this | reply

Naut, the Greeks had gods for just about everything, even "the unknown god"

and the Romans were just as, um, thorough...at least we (I) only have One to keep track of....

by the way, does our "geek" come from the same root as "greek"? (I know, my bad...)

posted by Rumor on September 23, 2007 at 8:36 PM | link to this | reply

Nautikos

This is a good write, and I'm going to read the previous ones too. The Greeks' exploration of the depths of the self is truly a great learning for the moderns. They go to the basest of the base to the sublimest of the sublime of human emotions. For example, Oedipus' lament at the oracle of Delphi:

"But when he (Apollo) spoke he uttered monstrous things,strange terrors and horrific miseries—
it was my fate to defile my mother’s bed,
to bring forth to men a human family that people could not bear to look upon,
to murder the father who engendered me".

posted by Bhaskar.ing on September 23, 2007 at 8:08 PM | link to this | reply

Nautikos
Greece has great influence on modern western civilization, in many ways!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on September 23, 2007 at 7:02 PM | link to this | reply

Nautikos
Great post and poem!  Your writing almost makes me want to get back into some of the studies I did long ago....I declared Philosophy as a major my first year in college...then changed, for I am much too intellectually lazy....of course, now I know I also have ADD which is why I flit from subject to subject and learn just enough to be stupid in a serious conversation about most things!  I always loved the Greeks, too....in my pre-teens, most of the fiction I read had settings in Rome or Greece.  Anyway, thank you for sharing your knowledge.  As for the poem, all I remember about Pan is that he played the flute, was very lustful, and Echo was a lover....but, I think he had to do with nature, too?

posted by Krisles on September 23, 2007 at 10:59 AM | link to this | reply

Great poem, Nautikos
Wonderfully interesting post.   Makes me want to write a post on religion--but I probably won't.  LOL

posted by TAPS. on September 23, 2007 at 8:24 AM | link to this | reply