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Re: Re: Soul_Builer -
That should read......... Thus it releases YOU but cannot........
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Soul_Builder101
on August 30, 2007 at 6:49 PM
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Re: Soul_Builer -
I believe that the forgiveness you do works differently. It may be that , by forgiving, you release the memory of the wrong done to you , and you move on feeling better. Thus it releases but cannot affect your attackers self-inflicted bondage. Karma is binding!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 30, 2007 at 6:47 PM
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Soul_Builer -
Sorry you feel that way. Karma or not, forgiveness is love in action. That's what counts.
posted by
sannhet
on August 30, 2007 at 5:22 PM
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John mac.....
Thanks for the visit and comments. I am doing another post on the subject.
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 7:17 PM
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Sannhet
This post is Jay's personal statement to them at a time he was attacked. Dealing with invalidation comes next. Forgiveness? They willfully wrote that karma and I cannot Excuse them. Notice I said EXCUSE! I cannot promote myself to God or Jesus and 'unwrite' karma. That science is beyond me! God forgives, I don't know how to. Saying I FORGIVE YOU is all 'hot air'.
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 7:15 PM
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A thought provoking post, Soul Builder. Thank you.
posted by
johnmacnab
on August 29, 2007 at 7:15 PM
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Chilitree, sheilah, Dolls 43
Many thanks for reading and your kind comments.A little more on this subject just now!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 7:06 PM
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I bought that book a few years ago but I never actually read it all...
Now that you mentioned it, I might just go back to reading it again.
posted by
Sheilah
on August 29, 2007 at 6:04 PM
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Soul_Builder -
Maybe its just me, but I don't need to tell a person who may be invalidating me all this "stuff". I need to just forgive them and move on. It takes no more effort then that.
posted by
sannhet
on August 29, 2007 at 5:50 PM
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Dave
Wow! Am thinking this over during a tea break - good stuff - my cobwebs are being brushed away.
posted by
Dolls-43
on August 29, 2007 at 2:30 PM
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Thought provoking post. Thanks for sharing!
posted by
Chilitree
on August 29, 2007 at 10:11 AM
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Bhaskar
THe way I see it, if they leave me alone..that's fine. Then I can live wholly in my world without even a cursory glance in their direction. The moment they attack me with power or intimidation or invalidation, extracting my attention to 'butcher' it, I give them attention of a kind they loathe. And this doesn't build them!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 8:45 AM
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To my way of fighting evil, Soul, I think there is no direct way.
In fact, humanity needs to be taught that if you can wholeheartedly concentrate all those things that elevate the spirits, you automatically dilute the powers of Evil. The priests and the politicians have an investment in spreading evil, and in making one feel guilty and sinners. Then they can command power over you. Therefore, the more you focus on evil, the more power you asssign to it. In no way denying that this is an interesting thought, but only that the approach has to be reversed, the goal remaining the same.
posted by
Bhaskar.ing
on August 29, 2007 at 8:25 AM
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Chris
Hope it helps in some way, Chris.
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 8:01 AM
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Offy
Evil's life is spent in conquering people. They use force, violence, manipulation, intimidation and scheming to create or discover weakness they can exploit to devalue you. Then when you are suffering they laugh at you.....ha! ha! ha!. They do it to me everyday. But I live in my soul which sometimes says...enough is enough!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 8:00 AM
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SB. I found this an extremely interesting read--thank you!
I know I shall read it again! Chris.
posted by
Scramble
on August 29, 2007 at 7:54 AM
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cpklapper
I use that method, not consciously because I am usually a nice guy. However, despite the patience I have, when there is a preponderance of evil in my life, on the offense, then I say....it's time to rumble!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 7:51 AM
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SB
I will try anything that would work. Typically when I recognize evil I expose it and then try to move as far away from it as possible...so maybe the system you write about would work even better then my own...Good post...
posted by
Offy
on August 29, 2007 at 7:50 AM
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I R.............
I think so too!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 7:47 AM
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Mariaki
I don't think evil appreciates the pearl of love. Love for them is being PULLED AND TIED OR CAUGHT. They manipulate your attention to achieve this.!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 7:46 AM
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Dark Mistress
I will use this approach... done my way. Hope it will be easier to understand!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 7:43 AM
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Taps
I think you make a good point. Evil's existence is about their parade, their having an audience and them calling the shots. They un-level the playing field to control the good. I guess Mr Carter is fighting back and the attention he gives to them is not for entertainment purposes!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 29, 2007 at 7:41 AM
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Actually, Quixote is precisely the right model here
As is Myshkin. Love sees the good in all, even in a world of hate and evil.
Carl Peter
posted by
cpklapper
on August 29, 2007 at 6:22 AM
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Soul, Good reading here. I'll have to go get this book now and read it.
As far as battling evil with evil...It's all part of the Sucking in process. Good read.
posted by
I-R-William
on August 29, 2007 at 4:22 AM
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An interesting viewpoint indeed - I enjoyed reading this and have to agree
as I believe that unconditional love dissolves evil - recognise it, love it then let it go. What you pay no attention to will disappear.
posted by
mariaki
on August 29, 2007 at 3:44 AM
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It's all a little over the top?...oh well
posted by
dark_mistress_again
on August 29, 2007 at 3:17 AM
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Soul_Builder
It seems to me that Mr. Carter is
validating evil by giving it so much of his time and attention and by addressing it directly, not invalidating. Evil is perverse and would receive with pleasure any attention, even that which would embarrass or pain that which is good. Evil has no remorse. It is ruthless. It would laugh at what Mr. Carter is doing/saying here.
posted by
TAPS.
on August 28, 2007 at 11:52 PM
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Afzal
Thanks for the comment.
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 28, 2007 at 10:36 PM
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Re: if we fight evil with evil , then we become evil,
I concur with callista.
Thanks!
posted by
afzal50
on August 28, 2007 at 10:02 PM
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CAllista
Good points. Jay Carter is different from me in that all he wants to do is get rid of the mechanism of invalidation. No food leads to the weakness and death of evil, he feels. To a point he is right. But evil people are reproducing their own kind too quickly to stem the evil tide. He is very good in his advice of how individuals can deal with other invalidating individuals.
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 28, 2007 at 9:41 PM
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then by showing love, we are being responsible for evil?
posted by
jeansaw
on August 28, 2007 at 9:28 PM
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if we fight evil with evil , then we become evil,
since we cannot fight evil, then we can only try not to be evil ourselves. and to those that show evil to us, do we just heap coals on their heads? (that is being kind to them)
posted by
jeansaw
on August 28, 2007 at 9:26 PM
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