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Re: Re: Re: He was talking about the whole bible

why were they rejected?

that would have to be answered by those who rejected them.

posted by Xeno-x on June 22, 2007 at 6:14 AM | link to this | reply

soterios we are talking about the Old Testament

question is -- what scriptures do you think Paul read?  And when he said "all scripture", he had to have been referring to those that were later rejected wouldn't you think, since they were part of scripture in his lifetime, only rejected (or not accepted by the powers of the time) some 150 and more years afterward.

posted by Xeno-x on June 21, 2007 at 9:19 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: He was talking about the whole bible

Why do you think they were rejected?

Have you read any of Paul's other scripture?

posted by Soterios on June 20, 2007 at 11:40 PM | link to this | reply

Re: He was talking about the whole bible

soterios

Paul's scriptures were different than ours.

there were several versions of the OT at that time.

by the canonization 150 - 350 years later, much of what Paul had as scripture was rejected by church leaders

posted by Xeno-x on June 7, 2007 at 2:15 PM | link to this | reply

He was talking about the whole bible

We no longer have the whole bible.

The word 'Holy' is an Anglo Saxon word meaning wholeness, completeness, or integrity.

The word relates specifically to a property of 'light'.

The bible is no longer what it used to be, because people who hate the truth have managed to remove the scripture that could help to show the way to the masses, and so empower them.

Becasue there are books missing, by definition the bible is therefore incomplete and no longer holy.

Since the 1st edition KJV it has become progressively less holy. It should therefore be referred to as the bible rather than the holy bible.

Even in Christ's time he berated those who weren't entering the Kingdom at the same time hindering others who were trying to enter.

All scripture is written by men who were inspired by God, therefore all scripture has elements of the truth. Unfortunately most scriptures are also suffering the elimination of elements of truth which comes with the passage of time and mankind's desire for updated translations.

posted by Soterios on June 2, 2007 at 9:02 AM | link to this | reply

What Paul wrote

was meant to subdue any vocallization of spiritual ideas other than his own.  He set out to establish Christianity, his brand of Jewish validity with pagan "mysteries" and develop a "new religion" at which he was the center.  Read "The Mythmaker, Paul and the Invention of Christianity" and it will clear up the confusion.

Guess it has worked pretty well, until freedom loving American Colonists decided to throw water on the matter and break up the tyranny of Church, and state.

Peace,

FR

posted by freerain on May 26, 2007 at 6:03 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Xeno, He was talking about the entire Bible.

and the texts at Qumran and the Septuagint and the Aprocrypha since that was also scripture at the time -- right?

posted by Xeno-x on May 9, 2007 at 8:27 AM | link to this | reply

Xeno, He was talking about the entire Bible.

posted by MandaLee on May 9, 2007 at 8:04 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Xeno - yes, Sannhet

and the people who brought us this Bible originally tell us that authority is more EXTRA biblical than it is biblical

posted by Xeno-x on May 8, 2007 at 4:18 PM | link to this | reply

Xeno -

A very good question. My most recent post came as a result of the research that I have been doing on the NT. There are just too many questions surrounding both the OT and the NT for me to feel comfortable that the Bible is the inerrant word of God.

posted by sannhet on May 8, 2007 at 10:07 AM | link to this | reply