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Oh, good! I'm so glad to know it wasn't just me in my prudery. I've loosened up considerably in my old age!! (but I still have some residual jaw dropping at the outrageous -- I think it's been hardwired in there!)
Ladyceemarie 
posted by
LadyCeeMarie
on April 5, 2007 at 3:11 PM
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heehee
When I went to college, I was completely disgusted by the discussion of bodily functions. It must have started somewhere other than NJ. This was late 80s.
posted by
FactorFiction
on April 5, 2007 at 10:05 AM
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I traveled to Caracas, Venezuela in 1975 and there was no poverty allowed
in the city and it is a beautiful, colorful metropolis -- very international. If visiting only the city, you would never see the mounds of impoverished humanity heaped into shelters of tin and cardboard for miles on the outskirts. We drove into the city and people were living as close to traffic as the shoulder. It was a corridor of suffering for miles. We never see this here and a tv sound byte could never get our attention. In Bogota, the contrast was the children living in the streets. The stench and poverty was every place you went. Now with the anti-American attitude blosomming in Venezuela, my friends there have been black-listed for years. I wish they could come to America and stay but they refuse to do so illegally, as many of their friends have. I've advised them to come as political refugees. I don't know if they get my letters anymore. I try not to say anything subversive in case the mail is intercepted and read. I would never go to Bogota in this day and age. We'd probably be kidnapped. Honestly. I am glad I went when we did. We saw a special on TV ON the street children of Bogota, and how it's a travesty totally ignored by the world. And so it goes. "And you're the only one who knows."
Lady Cee 
posted by
LadyCeeMarie
on April 5, 2007 at 9:28 AM
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I find mothers abandoning their kids so horrible.I would never be able to
enjoy a new relationship at the cost of an innocent child.So thats the reason for so many street kids in Colombia.Truly shocking!!!
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proc
on April 4, 2007 at 7:06 PM
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Proc-
Boy, you have touched on many topics that deserve to be addressed. The male territorial theory is evident in Bogota, Colombia. We were brave enough to go in 1977 for an internship opportunity. There are hundreds of abandoned children who will swarm you if you give them any money. You have to ignore them. I'm talking about toddlers, preschoolers! When women get a new man in their life, he kicks out the
reminders of another man's seed. What a way to identify little children! AND the mothers allow it! It's been a problem for decades.
Bogota is the pickpocket capital of the world. The children have very sticky fingers and you have to be on your guard at all times. They come from all over the world to learn the craft. Yes, we had a team of at least three maybe four guys in black suits, wearing white shirts and black ties, tried to pick my husband's pocket but he felt it and grabbed a guys hand as his fingers were slipping in his back pocket. It was an inexpensive wallet that had been tauted as pick pocket proof. It had this suede like material that was supposed to create enough drag you would feel it. I don't think it had anything in it and I wondered why he tempted fate. We knew of the danger of being robbed of the cheapest of watches, earrings, even wedding rings. Jay had spotted a guy across the street who was stopping every time we stopped. I was walking with my hand through his arm, and when we crossed the street, walking into a crowd of people, the guy from across the street, had also crossed over and hurled his body into us, breaking us apart. Jay caught the thief red-fingered and he saw the guy with a folded newspaper they would have handed his wallet to and sent on his way with the wallet. A fourth man called Jay a "clumsy ox" (because it caused quite a commotion for a few seconds). Jay shouted something back at him and it was over. (I'm not the Spanish speaker).
Cee
posted by
LadyCeeMarie
on April 4, 2007 at 3:39 PM
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Hi Troosha-
I'm still an old fashioned girl at heart, and agree with you. Being open about it didn't produce promiscuity in either of my children. That picture of me is the dress I wore when my panty girdle showed. I graduated out of the garter belt. Gads, I remember having to tighten the hose so the knees didn't bag or they'd get baggy around the ankles. I really enjoy the no-hose-at-all look from the past several years. I sure don't miss the hassle and indentations left in your legs!
Cee
posted by
LadyCeeMarie
on April 4, 2007 at 3:09 PM
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Scriber-
I just wrote the past hour and a half, and think I rewrote tomorrow's blog. So it's saved for a little sleeping on first. Thanks for your thoughtful response. Tune in tomorrow to see what you inspired!
Cee
posted by
LadyCeeMarie
on April 3, 2007 at 8:22 PM
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I agree with Troosha wholeheartedly.But I also have to
say that some of the olden day hypocrisy sticks in my throat.The idea that men have manopoly on strong sexual feelings.And even today ,although males enjoy the freedom of eager promiscuous females .they still cut women down with the "slut" lable and those are still the girls they choose not to marry even if they have kids with them.My brother who is a shrink says that men are still territorial about their women and dont like to "share".Thats why its never a good idea for a woman to be too honest about how many lovers she has had especially if she wants something more permanent.I think the old adage that men want a "madonna "in public but a "whore" in bed still counts as strongly as ever.
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proc
on April 3, 2007 at 6:27 PM
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Cee
It may be a whole “different day now” but I still think decorum, discretion, and even a certain level of modesty is sexier that laying it all out there. Behind closed doors, with the one you love and are presumably making love with, I think it’s healthy to be able to joke about sex, discuss it openly, express one’s needs, and even take a walk on the wild side. However, sex (at least for me) remains such a sacred and precious expression of one’s love. It deserves the pedestal on which it is placed from time to time and it’s a damn shame when it’s reduced to purely physical gratification or, even worse, a means to and end. Aren’t you a sweetheart with your dress and garter belt on…..
posted by
Troosha
on April 3, 2007 at 1:57 PM
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Right, television has opened up the world to all young and old...it can
never be the same again. Just as wars tended to advance individual rights, and at the same time, divided the rich and poor even more than before.
posted by
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on April 3, 2007 at 10:09 AM
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