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Citizens of the World, Unite to Demand the End of Needless Suffering
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posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on March 17, 2007 at 12:55 AM | link to this | reply

Citizens of the World, Unite to Demand the End of Needless Suffering
http://iraqsolution.org

posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on March 17, 2007 at 12:55 AM | link to this | reply

WLee55, Good post. Now I'll have to disagree on your counting the post-Ken

nedy disillusionment with any of the present goings-on.  To me, the only thing that has gone wrong at this point was a miscalculation no the part of well-meaning bureaucrats who wanted to please a tough president by giving him what he wanted, a low cost and a successful war.

What baffles me is how those in charge, who start out willing to listen to any and all ideas, soon close their ears to the voices of reason.  Rummy held Bush out of the loop for two years when General Patreus had the answer all along.  It cost him his job.

Once someone can find true success, that formula needs to be exported and generalized to the overall effort.  However, there are middle managers involved whose credibility will be hurt when they are proven wrong, so they spend all their effort stifling a cure.  This is the nature of archetectural bureaucracy.  The guys on the top floor never know what's going on downstairs.

You're mixing apples and oranges, I'm afraid.  There was never a cure for the Vietnam War.   It never should have happened in the first place.  The military-industrial complex rode roughshod over Kennedy (including having him, or having knowledge of his assassination) to get their war.  Of course LBJ was just the right puppet for the job.

As for the American voice.  If what you refer to as the American voice means the Democratic spin machine which states that there is no new strategy, the Nancy Pelosi drumbeat that there is no victoryto be had, well, there's your politics at play.

The histroians will write that a strong man, a great presdent, went to was to show the world that you don't attack America without losing your country over it.  He had to ride an elephant to do so, and the government was slow and contrary.  But, in the end when we have a well-balanced Middle East, everyone will see that his vision was correct.  No one thought Lincoln was smart either.

posted by kingmi on March 16, 2007 at 3:08 PM | link to this | reply