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I'm a feminist, too,
in the sense that I think that men and women should have equal opportunities.  However, although I might roll my eyes and sigh an exasperated, "Men!" on occasion, I do it mostly as a joke.  While men may confuse me, I know that I confuse men as well.  It comes from the fact that while men and women should have equal opportunities, they are not equal, as a matter of fact.  They are supposed to be different.  They each have their strengths and weaknesses, and I don't have a problem in the world with admitting that.  Besides, without those inherent differences...if we were all exactly the same...well, life would be rather boring, wouldn't it? 

posted by Jadelynn on February 22, 2007 at 10:02 PM | link to this | reply

"Feminist" used to equate with Man-hater.

Some guy I used to work with once asked me if I wanted to be the same as a man. This was when the equal rights amendment was one state shy of ratification (it failed). He knew I was a women's rights advocate, although I hadn't gone ballistic or done any major rants. I worked with a dozen or fifteen guys all the time, and several were hanging around at lunch. So he asked me if I wanted to be equal with men.

"Hell no, I'm not stepping down," I said. We all laughed, and that was the end of it.

posted by Pat_B on February 17, 2007 at 2:22 PM | link to this | reply

Prejudicial ethnic/race comments have no place in sports commentary.
The Irish commentators were fairly foul in regard to Americans in the World Cup last year, I know I married one, but that can't be helped.  There's such anti-American feeling in Ireland right now it's palpable.

posted by CringeintheUSA on February 17, 2007 at 1:56 PM | link to this | reply

I've always loved women
but as people first.

posted by malcolm on February 17, 2007 at 5:44 AM | link to this | reply

Good points, Tel, similar to my own thoughts in some ways.
I think it was worse in the 80s when i was a student than it is now - then it was still the trendy orthodoxy to be pro-femail and anti-male, to condemn men for all wars, etc - yes, but you need men to fight against the other men who start the war and the women who support them in many cases-  and in any case, it isn't necessarily the policy of the soldiers anyway, they just do what they are told. At the end of the day we all know that desire for money and power at the top of society is always the cause for offensive wars. A bsimilar bugbear of mine is how, not so much now but again for decades, it was OK even on the BBC to be really arse-licking towards the Scots and Welsh, and at the same time really derogatory towards England and the English. Just one example, they always used to praise the Scottish team's brave performance even when they lost, but would invariably say that the English team had struggled even when it won. And these were English presenters, on the whole, paid for by English licencepayers in the main. And you'd get the scottish and the Irish public phoning into radio shows blatantly making prejudiced anti-English comments, because they knew they could. All a big laugh to them, but another facet of the drippy English orthodoxy and self-hate in its post-colonial attempt to come to terms with its past and present.

posted by Antonionioni on February 17, 2007 at 5:07 AM | link to this | reply

Thought provoking post .

posted by afzal50 on February 16, 2007 at 5:37 PM | link to this | reply

ariel,
I didn't know that man can be 'feminist', too. Nice post.

posted by richinstore on February 16, 2007 at 5:00 PM | link to this | reply

Whinge

 

Women have ' liberated ' themselves into a new form of slavery ; to the unspeakable trauma ( for some at least of them ) of abortion on demand ; of joyless sexual relationships ; of unfulfillable ambitions and a general disillusion and dissatisfaction with their role. A true tragedy!

Yours is by no means some kind of freak relationship ; it is what most marriages have always been, and always would be, were it not for the femfascists.

There will be more to come on this subject over the weekend.

posted by ariel70 on February 16, 2007 at 2:38 PM | link to this | reply

Ariel, I have to say that as a teenager, I would've been one of those 'all
men are idiots' and only serve whatever purpose suits my mood that day.  But the minute I was really interested in someone that would all change.

With the advent of the likes of 'The Spice Girls' etc... and so called 'girl power' it's just the recycling of the same old pap just different packaging.

I think the worst thing is, the constant analysis of men's behaviour in the likes of lifestyle T.V., books and magazines, and the need to see motive behind any action, no matter how simple.  The oversaturation of this stuff is phenomenal, and it's hard to avoid if you're single, have repeat failed relationships, and every modern psychology is telling you that you know yourself, there's no issue with you if you're aware of your faults etc....

I never knew until I met my husband, that it all was very simple, that neither of us are no better or worse than one another by reason of sex.  Male/female, it's not an issue regarding division of roles or chores, it's more of who ever gets round to it first, who ever has the free time first.  Whenever I'm in danger of putting him into that category where he's a 'strange man' and I'm an 'empowered woman' we invariably end up discussing whatever the issue is before it escalates.




posted by CringeintheUSA on February 16, 2007 at 2:27 PM | link to this | reply