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Ariala...I know you enjoy believing that about yourself. But IMO...
You're about as politically correct and neutral on any given subject as they come. That's why you've been so popular - you never offend anyone.
You'd be perfect for politics. You'd be a natural. Have you considered running for mayor or city counsel?
It's nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about (again, IMO)
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Passionflower
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February 5, 2007
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Passionflower, just read my religion posts and you'll see I don't take
sides with the majority. Oh and I don't like to make waves for the sake of making waves, you're right. I am diplomatic, but that doesn't mean I don't have opinions. I don't like to fight for the sake of fighting...but you're right, maybe my perception of myself is different than how others see me...
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February 5, 2007
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I'm not really supporting anyone here. I just thought I'd try to show you
an alternate side to the situation. I wasn't mean to her upon return... in fact, I just ignored it completely. I think it was wrong for her to return and start up controversy again, but I certainly wasn't going to feed that desire.
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-blackcat
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February 5, 2007
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It's nice to see you supporting one of your Best Friends, Blackcat.
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Passionflower
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February 5, 2007
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Whether or not those things are true, Ariala...
You certainly seem to be on the side of the "majority" in most instances and you rarely make any waves around here. You're always politically correct.
I've found that sometimes we like to think of ourselves as being a certain way, but we aren't really that type of person at all.
The type of person we each are is measured by our actions, not our words.
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Passionflower
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February 5, 2007
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I think that shelly reacted to the return much in the same way that
you would react to Whammie's return. We all have our triggers, you know? Compassion works in all directions, not only for the mentally ill.
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Passionflower...as I was telling someone in my comment section in
my Life post on this subject, I am often in the minority in my views and I certainly don't give a flip what the majority thinks...I will continue to stand my ground on issues...I just think things should be discussed rationally without drama and high emotion. The prior leads to maintaining friendships. The latter leads to misunderstandings and making enemies. I'm not about that...and I certainly am not part of the mob mentality against Blanche or anyone else.
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February 5, 2007
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Whatever Ariala...Perhaps you're simply the type of person
Who goes along with the crowd and fears being ostracized if you "make waves" or express a different opinion than the majority. I'm not.
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Passionflower
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February 5, 2007
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Passionflower, I know myself and I'm definitely not cold blooded and I
wrote several posts that give my views on those with mental illness...in my estimation this has absolutely nothing to do with mental illness and everything to do with being a writer's site...we can't make provisions for those with mental illness and give them a different set of TOS than those who aren't mentally ill...and then how do we define who's mentally ill and who's not? No, it's impossible. I'm trying to keep emotions out of this. Bottomline is that community forums and sites have TOS, so no one can come back and make excuses. We're each responsible for our own behaviors on a site like Blogit. No, she didn't get away with it completely, but she did get away with it for a short while. What's sad is that another blogger's account was closed as a result. I wrote about that in my post from yesterday in Life.
Anyway, I'm not your enemy...I was just trying to express my views. Forgive me if I've overstepped my bounds...
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February 5, 2007
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Ariala...She knew she would get banned right away...
She DID NOT get away with it! You're starting to sound as cold-blooded as the rest. Maybe you've been around her too long.
You sound as if you whole-heartedly agree with treating someone with a mental disorder in a cruel fashion.
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February 5, 2007
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I just meant that Blanche broke the TOS not you...and it wasn't about
forgiveness or compassion or any of these issues (at least not to me) it was about breaking the Blogit TOS. If one banned member can do this and get away with it, then others might do it, too. I'm glad Blogit is being consistent and not making provisions for one and not for another.
I'm staying out of the emotional hubbab on this...just the facts, mam, that's what I was after LOL
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February 5, 2007
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Ariala...I haven't dis-obeyed the TOS Rules!
I'm simply being crucified for being nice to Blanche...It's a pitiful Epitaph for the Human Race if you ask me!
Shelly (and others) simply blew the whole issue out of proportion.
We all knew who it was and that she wouldn't be here much longer because several people turned her in right away. So what was the point of treating her like a criminal?
I pray that you don't support this type of behaviour. To me it also says that some of you need to get a life. Your only "REAL JOY" anymore seems to be stirring up shit in order to create a blog war and further bring toxic behaviour into this community.
This place is getting to be nothing but a BIG soap opera.
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February 5, 2007
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Passionflower, there is a lot of drama in this place, and no one is asking
anyone to abandon their banned friends or acquaintenances. I agree with Offbeat's first comment below; it's not about compassion or how to treat the mentally ill, it's about maintaining the Blogit TOS, plain and simple. I wish the talented Blanche well in all she does.
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February 5, 2007
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Shelly...I would, except that I haven't told any lies...
You just don't like me saying the unpleasant Truth so loudly. Get over it! You're mad because I forgave Blanche too easily. You told me that yourself.
Then you went around stirring everyone up into some kind of "Lynch Mob" after Blanche's blood!
If I've lied anywhere, it's all here on Blogit...go find the statement that you feel was a lie and show it to us. We're waiting.
Otherwise just shut up about it and try to learn to be more compassionate!
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February 5, 2007
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I feel like the victim now...
Until you stop talking about me behind my back and spreading lies I have nothing more to say to you. Oh and look who talking about friendship?
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February 5, 2007
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Whysper...you've never mentioned those things before...
But I don't blame you...no matter how open and accepting people SAY they are, they can be judgemental when it comes to mental/emotional problems
Let me just say that I (not too long ago) had some REAL RAUNCHY DEMONS to deal with. I've overcome alot of the JUNK by getting back in church (it's one of the few good ones left) and starting to read my bible every day.
It keeps me grounded and centered and provides "clean" social activities. I wish you victory in your struggle with yours.
I've said and written before that I believe that whatever it is in us creative people that makes us unique is also what drives our unstable emotional feelings.
If you ever need or want to discuss anything at all (no subject is off-limits with me), then please do email me.
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Passionflower
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February 5, 2007
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Glad you stopped by Shadow Pen...
We have one of the "Blog Wars" about once a month. It's been going on since the beginning of time...lol!
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Passionflower
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February 5, 2007
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Corbin...the Superbowl Party was greaaaaaaaaat!!!
We had some yummy fajitas, dips of all kinds, too many deserts to name...there were a couple a decent-looking men there too, but they were accountants...boo-hoo for me!
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Passionflower
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February 5, 2007
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Thanks for your support Tanga...
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Passionflower
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February 5, 2007
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Corbin...Shelly has sent me half a dozen emails
Telling me how upset she is with ME because I forgave Blanche too quickly. She wanted me to join her in being hateful and nasty toward Blanche and I couldn't do that because I understand Blanche's mental and emotional condition.
I told Shelly in an E-mail that if we ALL treated Blanche like shit and she commited suicide that we would ALL be responsible for her death and i didn't want that on my conscience.
The Bottom Line is:
I feel victimized bec people I thought were my friends are boycotting my blogs because I won't be hateful to Blanche.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not Blanche should be allowed back. I've never argued that point bec I don't believe she should be allowed back.
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Passionflower
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February 5, 2007
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Good for you!
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Tanga
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February 5, 2007
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I always feel like an outsider in conversations like this
I missed the whole Blanche blowup, and I don't really understand the whole concept of osterization. I agree that when anyone breaks the TOS, then they need to go, and I don't think they should be allowed to return, but that's just me.
I do, ferverently agree with PF on the whole hatred thing, I don't see how hate does any damage to the "intended victim" while it does sometimes irreversible damage to yourself.
My grandmother was a stickler for doing the right thing and following the rules to the letter, but she was adamant about how wrong it was to kick someone while they were down. We all make mistakes and everyone deserves the opportunity to recover from them. As a person who has struggled with mental illness most of their natural life(I won't go in to the unnatural part right now) I always know that I'm just one blink away from a total melt down, and I pray that when it happens I'm not left alone to fight the demons that chase me through the night.
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Whysper
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February 5, 2007
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BTW,,,,,,,,,
How was the Superbowl Party???
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Corbin_Dallas
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February 5, 2007
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Passion???
Where are you being victimized?
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Corbin_Dallas
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February 5, 2007
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Passion - Sorry that I should visit you in the middle of what looks like ..
"the battle of the Roses", but I defininately like your attitude towards wanting to live and let live. Bravo girl !!
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February 5, 2007
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I won't answer each of your comments individually...
But I DO want to point out that I've never anywhere said that I thought Blanche should be allowed back
All I've said is that I completely agree with Offbeats and Shelly but that I will not shun her and treat her poorly.
I hope that all of you can clearly see that I'm being victimized because I refuse to be mean to Blanche.
This is nothing more than a witch hunt.
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Passionflower
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February 4, 2007
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Oh...it was.....
Blanche......to many duplications of comments, nicknames....and referring to events that blogflogger had never participated in.....carrying on conversations with bloggers like they were old friends....and the real blogflogger had never engaged before.....
It was good...but the subtleties began to slip back in as confidence grew...She called me a nickname that only Blanche had done ....and she loved toying with people stepping close to disclosure and quickly stepping back......
Those never on the receiving end of her methods........will say what the hell is he talking about......those that were know. And knew the first day blogflogger reappeared......
She needs to stick with her therapy program and let this place go...if she doesn't....you will see her reappear....guaranteed! JMHO....
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
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February 4, 2007
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passion,
To err is human, to forgive is divine.
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richinstore
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February 4, 2007
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This is a great writing community.
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A-and-B
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February 4, 2007
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Was it really Blanche/ Blanche du Bois?
If it really was her it's kinda sad...I was convinced that it was some lone stalker and found it ridiculous that someone would spend money just to get banned time and time again. She used to leave me great comments. Who knows what tricks the mind plays on us.If you want to vent and talk about it there's more than a sympathetic ear on Blogit. I understand that she might be going through hard times and that you won't turn your back on her - I've been there, so I know what it's like. But as Offbeats rightly said, there are rules here that need to be enforced, otherwise imagine the anarchy that would run amok - on a site we pay to use, no less.
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February 4, 2007
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I used to read Blanche
regularly but during my 'Blogit break' last year something has obviously happened and she's disappeared. Can someone tell me what happened please?
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malcolm
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February 4, 2007
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You're welcome Shelly.Other than support it concerns human values as such
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Bhaskar.ing
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February 4, 2007
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Thanks for YOUR support Bhaskar!
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shelly_b
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February 4, 2007
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I think that Shelly is definitely not wrong, in what she says, her !st
comment down below.
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Bhaskar.ing
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February 4, 2007
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Hi Passion I just left a comment on your previous post.
How long, and why, after all, can one, or should , hold on to one's and anyone's past? Let's not be judgmental. Jesus said, "Judge ye not". No one is good or bad forever, at least it applies to me..mostly bad that's me LOL. Haven't you all seen that already?
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Bhaskar.ing
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February 4, 2007
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case closed
Blogit closes Blogfellows account..
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Offy
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February 4, 2007
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YOu are so kind and passionate .
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February 4, 2007
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shelly
forgiving is virtuous and not so easy to do, but to heal you need to forgive
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February 4, 2007
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I tried to explain to you why I felt the way I did...
You weren't listening to me. I'm not twisting your words. There isn't one thing in this post that isn't true or is only half true.
You just don't like seeing it spelled out in black and white.
Now you guys can stay here and bicker all afternoon but I have a great Super Bowl Party in Frisco Texas to attend.
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Passionflower
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February 4, 2007
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Passion
Shelly isn't asking you to treat her like shit. And if blanche has mental issues...she needs to take it where people can treat her, Blogit is not that forum. It is not our responsibility. Our responsibility lies in insuring the intregrity of the writing community. In order to be able to be effect in that we must do whatever it takes ...I am not allowed to break the rules, you are not...so why should anyone else be..It's not about compassion...it's about following the TOS.
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PF
A nice open hearted blog, you must of been threw a lot pain to feel this way. I always tell people there is no one I hate and they always look at me strange, but I always have felt its a sin to hate. You don't have to love or understand them but never hate anyone. And yes you are right, Blanche or anyone that suffers mentally is suffering as much or more then someone that suffers physically.
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February 4, 2007
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Passion, again...I NEVER said I wanted you to treat her like shit!
I would never ask that of anyone!!! I HATE it when you do this. I just couldn't understand how you could of been so forgiving? That's it!
Please, don't twist my words on me anymore.
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February 4, 2007
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