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Good advice that made me think.

posted by Straightforward on February 11, 2007 at 5:54 AM | link to this | reply

YP-

I thank you for your contributing to my thinker to you.  I agree with you that peace is ongoing.  You will leave your mark in the world.  You have already. I will start with expanding my living room to my sister's house.  Surely she didn't understand what she was passing along. But at least we should discuss it.  We should.  She has done all the footwork to become a DAR and it would cost me the minimal amount of dues to join.  I should do so just to show her my appreciation and that I DO love our great country.

Blessings, dear Neal, and love,

LadyCeeMarie

posted by LadyCeeMarie on January 29, 2007 at 9:41 AM | link to this | reply

Ypunday

The hate we judge others with consumes and ultimately is the judgement of ourselves.

posted by OTA. on January 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM | link to this | reply

All of you have elevated this conversation & I thank you profusely. LadyCee

replied after being inspired (and armed with noionviolence) through the movie GANDHI. Thank you especially Lady Cee for taking the time and effort. You are very, very, generous in the accolades. As peacemakers go I have failed; except in South Africa, I helped befor & after apartheid, through organizing here in the midwest and Johns Hopkins University, for the ANC and its issues (divestment). Especially in educating regular students and our cadre of diplomats who are now all over the world in Missions, I feel some sense of fulfilment. But for Peace & nonviolence one MUST not feel successful or all work may end, prematurely. Kucinich's work allows a friend in Maryland, Tedd Nunn, to agitate for DOPN (Department of Peace and Nonviolence: www.DOPN.org?)

But as you suggest, even the least active of us can talk the talk of opeace and diversity. You did with your sister...and leave the channel open for other political emails form her. Send her an email saying U want open lines of communication. As my Jewish and Palestinian friends in the LIVING ROOM Dialogue project (google it...) say: "If we can't talk here, how do we expect Israelis and Palestinians to do so over there?"

posted by salem8 on January 28, 2007 at 2:48 PM | link to this | reply

YP-

I've been thinking about how to respond to this for several days.  Neil, the answer came to me last night after we watched "Ghandi" on HBO.  I kept thinking of you and your deep-seated convictions for love, not hate or fear, and your abiding desire for peace.  You are much like the Mahatma.  I don't know you so well as to make these assumptions, one may argue, but I feel like I've known you for centuries and that your intentions have always been forthright and honest. 

One thing that jumped out of dialogue last night was (and I paraphrase here, calling on my faulty memory) when Gandhi said that he was in a room of worship and all was well.  He said he was Hindu, he was Muslim, he was Christian, he was Jewish, someone was reading from the Koran, and all was as it should be because all were worshipping the same God.  Have you and I not said the same?

That such great men of peace should die so violently, King, Gandhi, John and his brother Bobby, should be a lesson to us all.  Peace is what will be revered and remembered after all is said and done.  Intolerance of one another's beliefs, appearances, economic status, innate human needs only leads to chaos, fear, and loss of one's dignity, even their life.  It seems to me to live with one's heart guided by one's mind is the way we should all choose.  I found it cute when Gandhi's wife was asked if he had succeeded in living  as a man not married (more Godlike).  She replied, with this little knowing grin on her face, that he tried four times and failed every time.

I could go into a speil about how when JFK ran for president, the hand-wringers feared the Papal rule; America would be under the Pope's control. If there had been an Internet then, surely he would have been defeated and American History would have lost out on a great man (with very "un-Godlike virtues", according to Rome!) The hysteria trying to be arroused with Barok O'Bama's early education is just as disgusting.  My own sister sent the piece of "hysteria" travelling the web and I launched into my speech about making up my own mind, and since when did being a Muslim make one dangerous?  I get nothing but good vibrations coming from this man.  My biggest concern is for his safety.  Having a wife and young children didn't save JFK, or his brother. My sister said she'd never send me anything political again!

That man should live with love in his heart  and live as Godlike as possible, never meant one should squelch the physical manifestation of love, especially when vows have been made. The life of abstinence and self-denial are ancient laws made up by the patriarchal (Catholic) church, their high priests, that made women out to be dirty and unclean, not Godlike (or Goddess like). That side of God, the female part, as in the Yin and the Yang, was threatening to their power as being the chosen ones who spoke directly to God.  They were the only ones who could pray directly to God.  What POWER they  were able to maintain by ruling with fear; ruling by their rules!  Goddess worshippers and their time-honored ways of worshipping Her were deemed paganistic.  Their worship of Mother Earth was not the way of God, they said, when it WAS God. 

Oops, I am getting off on a tangent here!  Sorry!

Mainly, how this translates to your poem is that you have always been an honorable and loving man, ever so kind to this person who writes to you now, and one whom I will always call "carrier of the peace."

Blessings and namaste, Neil!

LadyCee 

posted by LadyCeeMarie on January 27, 2007 at 9:18 PM | link to this | reply

YPunday

You would think that people would see how malignant is hatred and seek some mental and emotional therapy for their own peace of mind and well being.  But, it seems that there are many who enjoy hating and feed their spirit of hatred gourmet meals to keep it strong and growing.

posted by TAPS. on January 27, 2007 at 11:13 AM | link to this | reply

Neil

You did the right thing , To hate even one person is to much to carry in the end you only hurt your self, I feel it takes to much out of me to hate a person but to forgive is so much easier , A wonderful story and a lovely poem  Thank you for sharing this with us , If you recived my mail please let me no

posted by Kat02 on January 25, 2007 at 10:40 AM | link to this | reply

YPunday,

You did the right thing.

posted by richinstore on January 25, 2007 at 8:03 AM | link to this | reply

That's nice YPunday.Chris.

posted by Scramble on January 25, 2007 at 4:01 AM | link to this | reply

Nice poem.

posted by afzal50 on January 24, 2007 at 5:28 PM | link to this | reply

posted by salem8 on January 24, 2007 at 4:32 PM | link to this | reply

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posted by salem8 on January 24, 2007 at 3:40 PM | link to this | reply