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LOL Strat...I still contend that money CAN buy happiness!
But it's not a popular POV.

posted by Passionflower on January 9, 2007 at 11:55 AM | link to this | reply

Money might not buy happiness,
but it can sure as hell buy a pretty good facsimile thereof...

posted by strat on January 9, 2007 at 11:46 AM | link to this | reply

Food4th...Very disgusting football game...YUK!

Daddy told me never to bet on the Cowboys. He said they were too inconsistent.

Glad I took his advice. I've been watching the Saints real closely because of my time in New Orleans. I'm so glad they're playing well.

posted by Passionflower on January 7, 2007 at 2:51 PM | link to this | reply

PF...
You didn't have 20grand bet on the Cowboys did you?  What a game, I don't think either team would have been or will be ready for the Bears.  Don't bet on the Seahawks eihter.

posted by food4thought on January 7, 2007 at 12:08 PM | link to this | reply

PF...hmmm $20,000 eh???
I propose an experiment, I'll give you my adress, you send me 20 grand and I will let you know!  Well, first I suppose I would take some and invest it in my retirement plan.  The rest I would put into an account to pay medical costs and pay for my part of my health insurance.  I would get some cool wheels for my wife for the blue bomber for her birthday.  I would fly to Georgia to see my sister, then Texas to see my brother and well, since I would be in Texas, I might buy PF a beer.  That's the least I could do.

posted by food4thought on January 7, 2007 at 12:06 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Maggie...sounds like you had a busy day...
And now you've got company coming??? Bet you have some yummy food all ready when she gets there too.....I could use some of your homemade  noodles  - Poor and hungry...LOL--

posted by Passionflower on January 6, 2007 at 8:29 PM | link to this | reply

Taps...If you were a mean hateful person when you were poor...

then money certainly won't change that. If you were a moron when you were poor, money can't necessarily make you smarter.

But if everything in your life is good except for the finances, the money could definitely make a huge difference....in a good way.

posted by Passionflower on January 6, 2007 at 8:27 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower
Yes, I say, money can buy happiness but it usually is fleeting.  That happiness goes just as quickly as does the money and the unhappiness is usually greater than it was before the money came.

posted by TAPS. on January 6, 2007 at 8:22 PM | link to this | reply

Just fine, Passion.  Hubby and I went shopping earlier and are now waiting for a friend who is coming in for the night.  She called from around Akron an hour and a half ago and should be pulling in the drive any minute.  We'll visit a bit and go to dinner.  I didn't know she was coming till she called at 5:00.  lol  Hubby hurried real quick and made up a fresh bed for her and we're all set.  She drove in from Chicago, on her way home to Virginia.  Maggie's Motel...hahahaha

Oh well, it will be good to see her.  We were at their house a year ago August.  They have a $750,000. home.  It was tooooooo rich for me.  Oops, she just called, she's just 10 miles away - gotta get ready to go to dinner.  Later...

posted by MaggieMae on January 6, 2007 at 3:26 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Maggie...how's your Saturday going?

posted by Passionflower on January 6, 2007 at 2:20 PM | link to this | reply

Symphony...I got lots of OPINIONS ON EVERYTHING!!
And you KNOW I don't mind sharing them....LOOL

posted by Passionflower on January 6, 2007 at 2:20 PM | link to this | reply

Passion.........

posted by MaggieMae on January 6, 2007 at 1:32 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower

YOU....are not scared to voice your opinon....(some are) LOL.

but in my previous post (in journal) I was talking about sexual fantasies...not many willing to give their opinion...but I believe I can rely on you....LOL....

posted by _Symphony_ on January 6, 2007 at 8:51 AM | link to this | reply

Maggie....
You're such a sweetheart.

posted by Passionflower on January 6, 2007 at 8:48 AM | link to this | reply

Babe...I agree about the misery thing.

posted by Passionflower on January 6, 2007 at 8:37 AM | link to this | reply

I wish I lived closer Sally...You need some hugs -
We could sit at your kitchen table and DIS the dude and drink coffee while we cussed out all the men we've ever known...LOL-- That could take some time.

posted by Passionflower on January 6, 2007 at 8:35 AM | link to this | reply

Symphony...I wish you had all the money you need

There's absolutely nothing wrong with you having alot of CASH to buy a house and all the things you and your children need.

To me, money is just a tool. Of course I understand if you can't move in with someone you don't love.  I may not be able to do it either. We'll see.

posted by Passionflower on January 6, 2007 at 8:33 AM | link to this | reply

well girl
back to square one...

posted by Offy on January 6, 2007 at 7:29 AM | link to this | reply

Good for you, Symphony......

posted by MaggieMae on January 6, 2007 at 6:55 AM | link to this | reply

Money can't buy happiness but poverty sure buys miseryX

posted by babe_rocks on January 6, 2007 at 5:28 AM | link to this | reply

I think I agree with you...

if I could get myself out of debt, as well as buy a big house with a massive garden - as well as buy the things to go in it....blah blah....then I would be very happy...so would the kids.

But having just said that.....

if a man I was not in love with and offered me the world then I would not go with him just because of money (I have been offered) my friends reckon I am mad for turning him down....but, like I said, I would not go with somebody just for money....I don't even fancy him in the slightest.

posted by _Symphony_ on January 6, 2007 at 5:25 AM | link to this | reply

Who knows Lustorlove???
I can read a roadmap but I often purposely take the scenic route....LOL!!

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 11:04 PM | link to this | reply

I completely agree Shelly...

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 11:01 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower
I really don't know that much about most the bloggers on here and we cant always know how together they are by reading what they write.  But what happens when a road block hit us which way do we go?  Some go down the wrong path, others chose the correct road and end up in the right spot of their life. I cant even read a road map.  But many of us on Blogit are here to find ourself with the help of other bloggers.  I waited a long time as when my life feel apart 24 years ago I went down the wrong roads and its only been in the last 10 years that I have been on the right road but I still didn't do very good financial planning.  But I know in my heart I will be ok

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 9:51 PM | link to this | reply

Passion, LOL, you got that right!

posted by shelly_b on January 5, 2007 at 9:46 PM | link to this | reply

LOL Shelly...I think it's time me and you both had some money to spend.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 9:45 PM | link to this | reply

Passion
 

posted by shelly_b on January 5, 2007 at 9:35 PM | link to this | reply

No prob, shelly....I promise to send you CA$H~
woo-hoo!

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 9:32 PM | link to this | reply

Lustor...alot of people have a good handle on who they are and
Where they're going....How about Blackcat? She's got it together. I used to think I did.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 9:31 PM | link to this | reply

Passion, you BETTER remember me, darn it!! LOL

posted by shelly_b on January 5, 2007 at 9:08 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower
do any of us know where we are going or doing?  Even at my mature age I am just know starting to make plans that I should of done a long time ago.  But life just passed me by

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 9:08 PM | link to this | reply

Welcome to my little corner of the world Shelly...
WHEN the big bucks that I'm expecting start to roll in, I shall remember you my dear if you haven't already experienced your own windfall.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 9:03 PM | link to this | reply

Guess it's time to work on my memoirs Lustor...

Actually, the old me died 6 years ago last Christmas. This new girl has been trouble from the start. She was pretty damned pissed off to start with about the birth process.

Birth is noisy, messy business. She didn't take to it well. Then of course, she had to go thru the whole learning to walk and talk phase. She was clumsy and a slow learner.

Then as she began to get her bearings, she went around questioning everythng and everybody...not happy to just "be". She marches thru life now always looking for a challenge.

She has no idea who she is or where she's going.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 9:02 PM | link to this | reply

Honestly...I would rather have the money than the love right now.

posted by shelly_b on January 5, 2007 at 8:55 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower
so now its rebirth and come back as a rich lady

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 8:50 PM | link to this | reply

Exactly right Lustor...I know we've gone back and forth alot--

And this is sometimes how people get into blog wars...by not really knowing the crux of the issue at hand.

Of course, we're all at different phases in our lives. What's right for me may not be right for you. This past 6 years has been a time of death, burial and resurrection.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 8:26 PM | link to this | reply

PF
so its not the money and happiness you are fighting or is it we are in a rut and believe old fashioned ways.  I dont think I knew this was what you were talking about.  Am I right?

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 8:18 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks Mysteria...I know you're right....
There's always a group who will not change no matter what...i'm in the other group though...you must be too....LOL!

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 8:11 PM | link to this | reply

PassssH Yes Do Challenge! It is the way to win!
Anytime I hear, "But we've always done it that way", it is evidence that the time has come for change...

posted by mysteria on January 5, 2007 at 8:08 PM | link to this | reply

I'm not losing Lustor...You still don't understand what I'm saying...

I'm challenging a well-established ideology. You can only WIN when doing that. You break open all those stodgy old beliefs and make room for fresh new ideas that might work better.

It's a system that humans have long used. In my particular life, the things I say are true and valid and it's preposterous for anyone who doesn't know me well to attempt to disprove them.

I've always been the curious type of person who won't accept long-held traditions. There have to be people like me in any society or else the rest of you will just allow so much dust to cover you and your way of life, that our entire race drowns in its own dead skin cells.

It's time (at least in my own life) to slough off the deadness. I realize that it's also "Normal" and to be expected...for well-meaning folks to come along and tell you not to rock the boat.

I accept that as your position in this discussion.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 8:03 PM | link to this | reply

PF
I am sorry to say Passion but I think you are losing this debate.  Only you can know what will make you happy and you are saying its money and not love, so then its love of money

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 7:38 PM | link to this | reply

Good night, Passion........

posted by MaggieMae on January 5, 2007 at 7:35 PM | link to this | reply

Do tell, Wiley....LMAO....
Guess you won't share WHY with us here on Blogit??????? {wink-wink}

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 7:15 PM | link to this | reply

Maggie...I think people have been telling all those fables for so long

That we accept it as the truth without question....Sorry, but I'm questioning the veracity of these "Old Cliches" we all accept and live by.

I'm perfectly happy to be alone. I love my solitude. I would like good regular sex. Other than that, I don't have a use for a regular guy in my life.

Alot of money would be a much greater blessing to me. Men fuck things up. Find me one that doesn't and I'll think about falling in love.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 7:13 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower

Uh, 20 grand would bail me out of debt luv.

But, I sure have felt happier since yesterday anyway, and I didn't get money.

posted by WileyJohn on January 5, 2007 at 7:13 PM | link to this | reply

I know what you're saying Lustor...but that's only ONE experience...

Don't you see??? Just because it turned out like that for you...for one person...should the rest of us decide that money is a BAD thing and never want any???

That's rediculous! You know it is.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 7:10 PM | link to this | reply

Passion......

I know you think a lot of money would buy you happiness.  I'm not convinced it would.  There is more to life than money.  I'd like to see you get caught up on your bills and have your own place, but I can't imagine the life you described is what it takes to make one happy.  I hope you find love because that is the key, someone to love and someone to love you.  That's the key to happiness.  You don't need a lot of money if you are fortunate enough to have love.

If you find that, Passion, you'll know what I mean.  I hope you find it. 

 

posted by MaggieMae on January 5, 2007 at 7:03 PM | link to this | reply

PF
there are so many ways to look at this Passion, I already told you about my life and all the all American life I once lived and I have been in the toilet too, but now I make good money, now good money to you and to me also may be a big difference.  A nice house and a fancy car could be different too, it is all in how we look at things.  My 20 year old is very materialistic and my 39 year really is just happy to have a car and a roof over his head.  The 20 year old was raised differently then the 39 year old that make a difference also.  She will admit she is rotten (20 year old)The 39 year old is a male and the 20 year old is a female, that too has a difference in the way they think

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 6:57 PM | link to this | reply

PF
We could argue this point all day, I have all that you are talking about and I am not that happy.  My social life sucks and I am not that happy at work, but I could still get laid, it dont matter if you have money or not when it comes to sex

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 6:49 PM | link to this | reply

You're not gonna be able to talk me out of this Lustor...

You're wrong!!! When I lived out in the country in a house by myself and traveled to diasters and worked and made a good living for myself, I was a very happy person.

I never let myself sit at home and mope--I dated 3 or 4 nites per week, got laid anytime I felt like it and pretty much enjoyed my life. If I had the money, I could go back to that lifestyle.

Now find something wrong with that scenario.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 5:34 PM | link to this | reply

PF
its just temporary happiness, once the bills are paid and the money is gone, how happy will you be then, sitting alone in your apartment?

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 5:26 PM | link to this | reply

I'll prove it buys happiness Offbeat...

Give me $10,000 to catch up all my bills and move into my own apartment and you'll see how perfectly happy I am...

True happiness, not fleeting, temporary happiness...I'm serious!!  Alot of money right now would solve ALL my problems....and it would make me very happy.

I think we're all "conditioned" to believe that money can't buy happiness but that's actually a lie. I'm challenging everyone's thinking today by asserting that:

 Money Does Indeed Buy Happiness

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 3:09 PM | link to this | reply

Passion
I think money can buy you peace....I don't know about happiness..

posted by Offy on January 5, 2007 at 3:03 PM | link to this | reply

I know that saying well Lustor...
It's because if you're poor and/or don't have a good credit rating, coporate America charges you more interest. That's a travesty. It's the exact opposite of what it should be and I'd love to change that.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 3:02 PM | link to this | reply

Sorry Pat...I think you're wrong...I'm trying to at least make

People think about it. MONEY CAN BUY HAPPINESS. I know the concept won't sit well with you guys, but poverty has reined supreme in many of our lives for long enough.

It's time to bring on the cash and let's just see if we're happier or not.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 3:00 PM | link to this | reply

Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy independence.

posted by Pat_B on January 5, 2007 at 2:18 PM | link to this | reply

I am getting dressed to go do some shopping and I reached into the pants pocket and pulled out a $5 bill a pauper would think he was rich and go have a decent meal on it.

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 1:00 PM | link to this | reply

PF
There is another old saying that goes like this "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" it is very true in the case of Corporate America.  The more they make the more they want and it doesn't matter who they screw over while making it.  Its all about greed.  My mom made a big lump sum of $942 to live off from Social Security, but it was my dads planning and not greed that gave her a good and decent life after his death.  He died in 1988 and she lived off the money he had earned, so she could live a nice long life. I don't think he thought she would live to be in her 90's. but who does.  Now the fact after almost 19 years when she passed away she had a good amount of money left that my brother and I inherited.  My dad bought houses when you could buy them for under $10k and then sold them at a profit, plus he worked for a big missile company for 25 years.  They traveled all over the US, Europe and the Middle East, before he passed away.  He was a very good planner, and at the holidays he would give out baskets of food to the poor, all though he never considered himself rich, he was rich in the things that count.  Not a greedy bone in his body.

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 12:49 PM | link to this | reply

of course it would make me happier
$20,000 would give me the resources to fix up my house - but then I would want more and more and more.  i have often wondered how it would feel to be born into a family that were very rich - can you appreciate anyhting?  I have always scraped by but i say bring on the money!!!!!

posted by ladychardonnay on January 5, 2007 at 12:39 PM | link to this | reply

Just an observation...In all your comments,

There's an underlying theme:

You don't seem to be willing to embrace the concept that money could make you happy. You seem to somehow believe it means you're being superficial and not concerned with the deeper things of life.

Though there are a few morons out there who, if given a large sum of money today, would ruin their lives, alot of CA$H would improve most of our lives.

There's nothing wrong with being rich.

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 12:24 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower
My life is by no means perfect, but I'm already happy. Sudden wealth would simply provide the freedom and means to enjoy myself in ways currently beyond my reach. That's all.  

posted by Talion on January 5, 2007 at 12:19 PM | link to this | reply

PF
Ok I am happy right now as I am getting some things that I have needed and wanted to get paid off, but that is not the kind of happiness I am looking for.  Paupers can be happy in different situations.  You make those good and bad decisions, I made many bad ones and now I am paying for them.  That makes me happy for now.  I have had a somewhat good marriage, 3 kids, new cars, houses and have been on welfare.  But things didnt change that much.  I make a good income, but would walk away from it if I had more money, but that doesnt mean I would be happy.  You must find your own way to be happy, and its not always money.  I am happy because my kids have all turned out good, and really no bad dependency on anything.  My life has been full, but in some ways its very empty right now. 

posted by lustorlove on January 5, 2007 at 12:12 PM | link to this | reply

$20,000 would certainly
ease my life.. as to happiness??? dunno.

posted by OTA. on January 5, 2007 at 12:05 PM | link to this | reply

I'm already happy, but money would make me happier!

posted by Ariala on January 5, 2007 at 12:02 PM | link to this | reply

That's exactly what I'm saying, Mysteria....
Think of the good you could do for your family if you suddenly became rich. Of course you're right....Money can't buy absolute happiness...but who in the hell has that anyway?????

posted by Passionflower on January 5, 2007 at 12:01 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Passsh I agree, My Mom worked like a slave for 55 years and exists on
less than 600 dollars social security a month!  It is a travesty and a gross injustice.  I would be SO happy to have enough income to give it to her and and also my 2 unfortunate biological sisters.  Money does indeed buy happiness, perhaps it cannot buy absolute happiness, but then again that is an otherworldly aim....((((((PaSh))))))

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