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Hi Durbin--I have troubles with 'three liners'! (as you may see by my reply

I think it's because it is a 'she' who asked the question? Chris.(So the 'she' is 'in it?)

posted by Scramble on July 6, 2007 at 3:51 AM | link to this | reply

Thanks for sharing !

posted by afzal50 on July 6, 2007 at 12:08 AM | link to this | reply

Neil

Gives us alot to think about 

posted by Kat02 on December 11, 2006 at 6:59 AM | link to this | reply

A male-only structure of deities reflects a male worship of power, and...

...female gods, at least alongside the male ones, reflect a more balanced whole view of the life force itself, rather than simple power and authority. That's my impression, although i haven't studied it in any great depth like some of you guys!

posted by Antonionioni on December 10, 2006 at 11:30 AM | link to this | reply

Afzal, you certainly stretch your mind, heart and soul toward the Infinite

thanks for your cool visits, O Rumi. (I find more and more connections betwen ancient Iran and India...and to the West. As you know and show, we are ONE after all, just blind by the different clothes...saris, burkah, chadur and otherwise bikinis).

As-SalaamuAlaikum Ramathallah wa Barakatoh. InshaAllah

Although Ahura Mazda is accepted to be the conceptual equivalent of a proto-Indo-Iranian divinity, the details are a matter of speculation and debate. Scholarly consensus identifies a connection to the prototypical *vouruna and *mitra, but whether Ahura Mazda is one of these two, or both together, or even a superior of the two has not been conclusively established.

One view (Kuiper) is that the proto-Indo-Iranian divinity is the nameless "Father Ahura", that is, Varuna of the Rigveda. In this view, Zoroastrian mazda is the equivalent of the Vedic medhira, described in Rigveda 8.6.10 as the "(revealed) insight into the cosmic order" that Varuna grants his devotees. Kuiper also suggested that Ahura Mazda could also be an Iranian development of the dvandvah expression *mitra-*vouruna, with *mitra being the otherwise nameless 'Lord' (Ahura) and *vouruna being mazda/medhira as noted above. In this constellation, Ahura Mazda is then a compound divinity in which the favorable characteristics of *mitra negate the unfavorable qualities of *vouruna.

In another view (Boyce, Schlerath, et al), Ahura Mazda is seen as the Ahura par excellence, superior to both *vouruna and *mitra. In a development of this view (Boyce, 2001), the dvandvah expression *mitra-*vouruna is none other than the archaic 'Mithra-Baga' of the Avesta. But while in the Vedas Bhaga is a minor divinity in its own right, in proto-Indo-Iranian times this was but one aspect of *vouruna's concept and in Greater Iran continued to be a cult title for *vouruna and eventually replaced it (Boyce, 2001:243-244). Boyce also notes that on Persepolis fortification tablet #337, Ahura Mazda is distinct from both Mithra and the Baga (Boyce, 1983:685).

posted by salem8 on December 10, 2006 at 4:56 AM | link to this | reply

Thought provoking post .

posted by afzal50 on December 10, 2006 at 4:49 AM | link to this | reply