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MountainClimber, This is a very good post and it is a very good exercise in semantics using your figure of speech. Also faholo's comment where she says that when one rejects God's grace, sin happens. Sin never "happens". Rejection of God and His grace
IS sin. So, when one rejects God, God piles on the grace. One cannot fall from it or run from it or hide from it. The harder one tries to do that, the more the grace grows and overcomes the sin. So, will God forgive this man that so many looked up to and practically worshipped? He already has. Will the people who looked up to the man who sinned forgive him. Some will and some won't. Will this man return to a position of leadership? Probably not to the extent that he was before. Will his duplicity keep some people from faith in God? Will it give those who would never have trusted in God anyway a reason/excuse for their rejection? It may have done both and he will have to answer to God just as we will have to answer for what we each choose to do with this knowledge.
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TAPS.
on November 4, 2006 at 10:14 AM
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Brainwashing and screwing a woman only to kidnap her child and repeat the process in that child's life IS NOT GRACE. That's why you are staring at an old fashioned form of execution in your religion. The crime shall result in death.
posted by
Jenasis
on November 4, 2006 at 9:52 AM
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MountainClimber you used the appropriate term which
means,
rejection of grace. when we sin we do fall from grace, we turn our backs on the grace being offered to us, meant to sustain us in temptation, when we reject and turn from grace sin happens! Good post! Blessings!
faholo
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faholo
on November 4, 2006 at 9:47 AM
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Taps, of course I was using a figure of speech, but your insights are very
well received. Yes, I am glad that we are never beyond His grace!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on November 4, 2006 at 9:22 AM
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MountainClimber, I'm not sure a person can "fall from grace". The Bible says "Where sin abounded, grace did much more abound." (KJV) I think this man in the news fell from the graces of other men who are not so forgiving. It is good to remember that God's grace is always there for us because sooner or later, we all are in need of it.
Sin didn't, and doesn't, have a chance in competition with the aggressive forgiveness we call grace. When it's sin versus grace, grace wins hands down. All sin can do is threaten us with death, and that's the end of it. Grace, because God is putting everything together again through the Messiah, invites us into life—a life that goes on and on and on, world without end. (The Message, Romans 5:20)
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TAPS.
on November 4, 2006 at 8:11 AM
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