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Feminist Double Standard

I thought some of you might be interested in what I wrote about honor killings.  Check it out at  http://behindtheredcurtain.blogspot.com/ 

And look for the article called Feminist Double Standard

posted by The_Fallen01 on July 3, 2005 at 2:59 AM | link to this | reply

One of us is clueless, and I am not sorry to say it's you.
Dear DamonLeigh Those countries you listed had a big head start, and they didn’t do such a great job of ruling the world. They are behind us now, yes they progressed, but how far? How fast? You critical of our situation, and you should be, there is always room for improvement, but I don't see you volunteering to move to a wilderness and do a better job. Outer Mongolia empty right now. The Chinese forced the nomadic tribes to settle down in one area, Mongolians over grazed the land. The Mongolians equate herd size with wealth, their herds starved, and now everyone is dead. So why don’t you take your tree hugging friends and see if you can do better? If your house is overrun with roaches, you don’t pick and choose the biting kind, you bomb the whole place. Yes I know roaches don’t bite, and that we can not bomb the Muslims into the Stone Age, there are too many of them. But we can be aware that violent terrorists are hiding in a mostly non-violent population. We can also use persuasion to convince the Muslims that they made a mistake following Mohamed. Yes they won’t like that, but as I pointed out in my post, I don’t like them bombing my country, persecuting Christians, and killing women and children. It is time we stop worrying about their feelings, and start teaching them the love of Jesus.

posted by Uncle_Dan_02 on September 26, 2003 at 1:14 PM | link to this | reply

Yep. Nazi is About Right
In part of your hate-filled blatherings, you say "To remove the right of Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists to kill and destroy innocent people, we have to remove Islam." How is that different, pray, to Hitler saying that to remove the right of Jews to carry on their businesses and continue with their 'false' religion, all Jews must be exterminated?

Then there's this gem.

"We could coexist with the Muslims, provided they left us in peace, but they are jealous of our progress, and how our society has advance beyond theirs. They can’t leave us alone, because every advance we make highlights their wrong choice of a god, so they have to destroy us, anyway they can."

Jealous of our progress??? Wrong choice of god??? You really don't have a clue, do you?

"America was a wilderness when it was discovered, and in five hundred years that wilderness has been turned into the most advanced nation on the face of the earth."

Well, if you think national bankruptcy, state bankruptcy, rising unemployment, appalling polution from the greatest polluters on Earth, stressed-out workers working longer hours for less money than ever before, rampant consumerism, a mountain of waste at Fresh Kills large enough to be the largest mountain on the eastern seaboard, massive power blackouts, massive death rates from guns and auto acccidents, adds up to being the most advanced nation on Earth, well, you can keep it.

"Now the world scoffs, “Anyone could have done the same.” Really? I don’t think so, if the world could have done the same, why didn’t they?"

Shabby logic and history here. What happened in America after it was 'discovered' (and that's a whole debate right there!) happened because of the British, the Spanish, the French, the Dutch, the Norwegians, and others. THERE WERE NO AMERICANS BACK THEN! Duh.

posted by DamonLeigh on September 25, 2003 at 4:44 AM | link to this | reply

Uncle Dan

You're a Nazi.I only take comfort in knowing that your kind will die off this earth one day and allow true, freedom-loving people to repopulate the nations of the world and create new ways of thought and philosophy to prevent small-minded monsters such as yourself from regrouping.

Christianity is no more or less a "slaver" than Islam. Christianity just does it better; they're slicker... Savvy? Why? Because they spent hundreds of years getting good at it. They sent thousands and killed millions from the Crusades to the Spanish Inquisition to the very genocidal theft of this country from the Native Americans so you could feed your fat, bloated, ignorant face with overprocessed fast food.

And they did it all by hiding behind a book. You say the Muslims hide behind the Koran, you hide behind the Bible. You believe Jesus Christ makes you right; you can do everything and anything as long as Jesus says so--and, you, being the God-fearing man you are, believe all you do is in the name of God.

This country is in peril. Americans are imperialists and nationalists, fascists... I thought this was the land of the free? All I see are obselete has-beens and selfish Baby Boomers who don't want to let go of the Me Era-1980's.

I do question my beliefs about the corporations in this country, but at least I'm willing to say so. At least I'm willing to re-examine myself and say, "Am I just bitch, bitch, bitching for no reason? Could there be something else I'm missing?"

You think you could do that for a second, Danny Boy? Question your sovereign beliefs? Maybe your self-righteousness is no different than the Islamic self-righteousness? Maybe a little hypocrital?

Can you get off your high-horse long enough to do that, or is Jesus telling you not to do so?

You know who else listens to Jesus? Serial killers. Jesus tells them to kill people all the friggin' time.

"Not my Jesus."

You know what, stop hiding behind God and the Bible, stop making excuses for selfishness and greed to hurt people; open your eyes.

http://www.cleveland.com/search/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1063535453261770.xml?oxlet (hope the link still works)

posted by Ekildog on September 20, 2003 at 11:30 AM | link to this | reply

Uncle Dan
You and yours are trying to impose your beliefs on Muslims, the very thing that you accuse Muslims of trying to do to you. You say "The number of people who are wrong does not make them right." That applies to you too. Most people in the world want to be able to live peacefully in their homes and have no wish to disturb others or be disturbed by others.
Who has the responsibility to determine that you are right and they are wrong? They are different to you, you are different to them. I am different to you and to them. Maybe I am the one who is right and you are all wrong. But then I would be deciding and I, like you, have no right to do that.

posted by beachbelle on September 20, 2003 at 1:46 AM | link to this | reply

Dear Beachbelle

Yes I am serious.

 

One third of the world has fallowed a false belief.  The number of people who are wrong does not make them right, or mean those who have seen the truth should not try to show them the errors of their ways.

 

The thousands of peaceful Muslim families living in the west are just the tip of the religious fanatics spear.  They don’t cause trouble, and most likely they will never cause trouble, but they open the door for the people who will burn our civilization to the ground rather than admit they made a wrong choice.  Look at the nice, ‘All American,’ kids who grew up in New York.  When push came to shove, the snuck off to Alcida training camps in Afghanistan, and returned home pledged to attack the United States of America.

 

No I don’t like it that a whole group of bomb wielding, baby killing, civilization destroying barbarians has decided that my religion must be oppressed and destroyed.

The Muslims are trying to impose their beliefs on me.  When was the last time a Christian Charity, sponsored the bombing of an office building, the burning of a mosque? Or the murder of Muslim Clerics?  Or a Christian Church put a Muslim Author, or any author, on a death list? Or a Christian tried to kill to kill the High Mullah of Mecca, like a Muslim tried to kill the Pope?

 

Personally I am offended, and I am trying to rally the people who can understand that we are under attack, and reach those who have been brainwashed into thinking ‘diversity’ is equal to ‘good.’  The Muslims are attacking us, and want to remove or religion, society, and history.  I am doing what I can to fight back, as I have been guided by God and Jesus.  If that offends some people, tough titty.  If the worst evildoers are being given aid, comfort, and shelter by their slaves, then the slaves must be freed, and the criminals brought to justice.

 

I am not saying this will be easy, far from it, but the fight has been started, and now it is up to us to get organized and finish it.  The Muslims have followed a false prophet, and must pay the price of their mistake.  Their violent behavior is just the rage of a child who has been caught doing wrong, and doesn’t want to clean up the mess he made.  Christianity, and Western Civilization can not let them get away with it.

posted by Uncle_Dan_02 on September 19, 2003 at 2:36 PM | link to this | reply

Unc Dan you say
"The world has been confronted with the problem of Islam, a problem which is yet to be solved."
How do you propose to solve this co-called "problem"? What makes you so sure that everything about Islam is under one umbrella and wrong while everything on your side is right? How do you explain this to the Muslim families living and working peacably across America?
Last time I read the papers and watched the news and read books there were a whole bunch of other nations out there just as advanced and democratic as the USA.
Seems to me that the quest for domination is the cause of many of the recent outbreaks of hostility. It seems to be the height of arrogance and ignorance to suggest that huge numbers of people on earth should abandon their beliefs.
How would it feel if someone ordered or forced you to abandon your version of Christianity - that it was forthwith cancelled - even though you believed it with all your heart. That is what you expect others to do.
Are you serious?

posted by beachbelle on September 18, 2003 at 3:19 PM | link to this | reply

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