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Maybe not, Frankly...but most of you are.

It's getting  pretty hard to find one normal guy who can kiss and isn't a complete jerk.

posted by Passionflower on October 20, 2006 at 10:15 PM | link to this | reply

ahahahaaaaa....

...I think you meet the wrong men my dear...not all of us are enamoured with ourselves...

posted by FranklyMydear1 on October 20, 2006 at 8:13 AM | link to this | reply

Corazon...well, thanks for being so honest at least.

Homemade soups and stew is my specialty. I make many kinds.

posted by Passionflower on October 17, 2006 at 6:16 PM | link to this | reply

Make breaak time 4:20, Passionflower, and "happy hour", lol

posted by Blanche. on October 17, 2006 at 6:16 PM | link to this | reply

LMAO Blanche... Okay then...

Yes, they will begin handing out reefer in the breakroom tomorrow and we're all very excited. I think I SHOULD have a bonus.

posted by Passionflower on October 17, 2006 at 6:14 PM | link to this | reply

You're so kind and generous, Lustor...

Thanks....I'm going out to Hawaii this week to work that earthquake so I'll be practiced up.

posted by Passionflower on October 17, 2006 at 6:13 PM | link to this | reply

Geez, Passionflower, I'm sorry you've had such a string of bad luck, but

if every man on the planet was that bad, how would the human population regenerate? Beginner's Luck?

  BTW, are they handing out reefer in the break room at your job yet?  I think you should get a bonus for an employee suggestion that improves productivity and maybe mood! 

posted by Blanche. on October 17, 2006 at 2:38 PM | link to this | reply

LISTEN UP, YOU MEN

Yes it's true. Males in our pop culture may indeed be self-absorbed. What's a red-blooded testosterone-driven American male thinking about this time of year? Food? I like eating, drinking and life.
I could not force my bloodied feet into the straight-jacket of the pop culture machismo mold, and paid dearly for it. Now I think there is no substitute for honesty and that the best way to love necessarily involves the high regard you have for other people.
Well this might not always be the case, but I ... ... ...
self-absorbed Jaime.
Now when is that stew going to be ready? (stomach growls)

posted by corazon on October 17, 2006 at 2:34 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower

well maybe CA will have a quake and we can share

posted by lustorlove on October 16, 2006 at 7:57 PM | link to this | reply

Oh gosh Sally...I'm so sorry to hear this.

Sounds like the flu. I do hope you'll get down to the doctors if you haven't been already. God bless....

posted by Passionflower on October 16, 2006 at 6:34 PM | link to this | reply

PF

Hey there...I am very sick and so I will come back and comment when I feel better. JUst took tempter and it is 102. I wish I would keel over and die...bones and muscles hurt...love ya...........

posted by Offy on October 16, 2006 at 5:54 PM | link to this | reply

LOL Maggie...I'm sick of all these men who are happy

With bare minimum love-making skills. That's just lazy!!!!!

posted by Passionflower on October 16, 2006 at 5:46 PM | link to this | reply

WOO HOO!

posted by MaggieMae on October 16, 2006 at 4:30 PM | link to this | reply

Kissing is a must, STrickgold...I'm not settling for

Crappy love-making.

posted by Passionflower on October 16, 2006 at 3:46 PM | link to this | reply

To sum up your post

what the real problem is for men sex only last 10-15 minutes top.  They instantly "go for the Gold" so they dont see any need in learning how to kiss.  Though I think most women would agree that they would at least like to be kissed first. 

posted by StrickGold on October 16, 2006 at 3:11 PM | link to this | reply

Shams...I'm sure that you are...

Esp if you learned from women...LOL-

posted by Passionflower on October 16, 2006 at 5:31 AM | link to this | reply

Lustor...I do earthquakes.

And I hope to get the call today.

{I guess California is a long way to go for a date anyway, so just go ahead and keep those phone numbers...LOL}

posted by Passionflower on October 16, 2006 at 5:31 AM | link to this | reply

LOL Blanche...I was just BSing you!

I'm exactly like you are in that regard...in fact I over-analyze everythng.

posted by Passionflower on October 16, 2006 at 5:29 AM | link to this | reply

I am smiling ..... great post

I consider myself a great lover....but I have learned all I know from women who have been open enough to share their desires and needs.

posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on October 16, 2006 at 2:12 AM | link to this | reply

Passionflower

honey if I get the names I wont share unless there is a surplus of them

posted by lustorlove on October 15, 2006 at 11:01 PM | link to this | reply

passionflower

are you on your way to Hawaii, or do you do earth quakes?

posted by lustorlove on October 15, 2006 at 10:58 PM | link to this | reply

If I sounded like I was analyzing, Passionflower, its' what I do.

You asked me if I knew how to change myself, the first step is analysis. Sorry, but that's how it is. The first step to change is awareness.

posted by Blanche. on October 15, 2006 at 8:26 PM | link to this | reply

LOL Whacky!!!!!!!

 

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 6:50 PM | link to this | reply

RumoredIntel...I believe you but you have to admit....

There aren't very many like you around.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 6:47 PM | link to this | reply

SoloWriter...hi and welcome to Blogit...

Some men are kind of dumb but we mustn't generalize, must we? Or else the Alf Police will come back.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 6:46 PM | link to this | reply

your post doesn't tick me off at all, Passion..I love to kiss and be kissed

and if I'm not in control, that's ok, too...I don't have to be Mr. Macho to prove anything...Mr. Macho loses bigtime.....

posted by Rumor on October 15, 2006 at 5:38 PM | link to this | reply

Huh? WellDuh.

posted by Whacky on October 15, 2006 at 4:54 PM | link to this | reply

You too Alf-

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 4:01 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks passionflower...

I have no doubt I will settle down eventually...again.  Part of the reason I am so busy now is I am preparing my life for just that eventuality, because the woman I finally choose will deserve the best I can offer her.  I am also certain that when I do she will be my equal, she will stand beside me...not behind me.

Have a great Sunday 

posted by A_Norseman on October 15, 2006 at 3:51 PM | link to this | reply

No prob Norseman....I love to go round and round myself

Every now and then. It keeps you on your toes.

 I hope if you do ever settle down, you get a woman just like me...fiery and passionate....opinionated as hell...smart and not willing to back down from a fight.

You deserve it....LOL!

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:46 PM | link to this | reply

LOL...wrong again Passionflower...

Actually, If I chose to be in a relationship inspite of my time constraints, with no regard for the woman...then THAT would have proved your point.  If I put my own carnal desires above those of a woman in my life THAT would have been selfish. 

Sorry I annoyed you.  Thanks for the banter though, I do enjoy a good disagreement now and then.

posted by A_Norseman on October 15, 2006 at 3:32 PM | link to this | reply

Sorry Moxie but I've tried them all....

Young, old, thick, thin...smart, dumb....they're all the same....not worthy of your time and trouble.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:27 PM | link to this | reply

Alf, your arrogance DID annoy me!

It's clear  to me at least, that the reason you're not in a normal, healthy relationship with a woman is that you're too selfish to give up the time and effort it would take to make the relationship work.

Of course it IS your perogative NOT to be in one, but it does rather prove my point, doesn't it?

Of course, that's merely my opinion, but I AM entitled to think what I like. Right?

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:26 PM | link to this | reply

Well, Passionflower,

your options are out there. Shopping doesn't always have to be for shoes, it can take place in an adult toy store, or there is the option of a male escort...only strictly for company and someone to talk to!

posted by Moxie_Maven on October 15, 2006 at 3:20 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower...

I wasn't trying to "diss" you.  That was not my intention.  I did disagree with some of your opinions and expressed my alternative opinion.  The only toes you stepped on of mine were the reference of American men.  When ever you paint an entire group of people with one brush you are simply wrong.  It's like me saying all woman are crazy (which I have said before in times of frustration), but that was wrong of me as well.

I don't have an excuse why I'm not in a conventional relationship right now other than I choose not to be.  Is there something wrong with choosing that?  I don't have time to be a "good boyfriend" and I don't like to do things half-assed,  so the only real option for me is to not get involved if I know I don't have time for it.

So anyways...I hope I didn't offend you.  Just speaking my mind on a topic you opened up which by its very nature is somewhat controversial.  You are totally entitled to your opinions and I didn't mean to indicate otherwise.

posted by A_Norseman on October 15, 2006 at 3:19 PM | link to this | reply

Passion, you got

  again!  LOL

posted by shelly_b on October 15, 2006 at 3:18 PM | link to this | reply

LOL Shelly...

So do you....

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:17 PM | link to this | reply

Maybe so, Moxie...

But I'm thinking it might be time for some really good sex....and there's the rub.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:17 PM | link to this | reply

Dear Passionflower,

Okay, maybe it's time for a new pair Christian Louboutin's...? Hmmm? Shoes? Strappy sandals?

posted by Moxie_Maven on October 15, 2006 at 3:12 PM | link to this | reply

Lustor - send me the names and numbers of these guys.

I can relocate.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:09 PM | link to this | reply

Passion, LOL, you got...

posted by shelly_b on October 15, 2006 at 3:09 PM | link to this | reply

Moxie...yeah, I do that too.

I put alot of time and effort into my work, writing etc. Eventually, you get too lonely.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:07 PM | link to this | reply

Oh you do Shelly?????????

Hmmmm....email me with who you THINK it is!  LOL- You girls just hate secrets.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:05 PM | link to this | reply

LOL Blackcat...the way I remember it, it was more like 2 or 3 times.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:04 PM | link to this | reply

Woo-Hoo Norseman!

We're gonna give you a PARADE cuz you're such a swell guy and always soooo interested in pleasing all the women in your life.

Just let me ask you this:::: Are YOU currently IN a stable, loving, trusting relationship?

Of course you'll have some really good "reasons" why you aren't.

As you may not have noticed, this is an OPINION BLOG. Furthermore, it's MY OPINION BLOG! You're perfectly FREE to disagree with my opinion but NOT to diss me.

Sounds like I stepped on more than a few of your toes, which in my mind, only means that you have a real problem in some of the areas I wrote about.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 3:03 PM | link to this | reply

There are NUMEROUS good men in the world.

Once you decide what you are worth, your thinking will change, your behaviour will change, and you will eventually attract them.

Interestingly enough since honestly directing my energy on myself and my future I see people differently than before, types of men differently than before, and I see how I have attracted the bad ones in the past. It's just as easy to attract the good ones as it is to find the losers. There are some really good ones out there, but you won't be able to see which ones they are until you figure out not to let any of them use you or take advantage of you or your time in any way, shape or form.

Don't forget to play the lotto!  

posted by Moxie_Maven on October 15, 2006 at 2:46 PM | link to this | reply

Men are stupid.  Can't trust them.  They'll blame the woman if she trusts him.

posted by Jenasis on October 15, 2006 at 2:40 PM | link to this | reply

Passioinflower...

Ok...so I wasn't offended until I read your comment to Arial, In which you say:

There are always exceptions to the rules, Ariel.

And I do think that American men are probably some of the worst. Our nation is about selfishness.

It's all about ME. What about me?

Most men aren't the least bit interested in learning what they can do to please you. Their attitude is, "Hey! If this one doesn't like me the way I am, I'll just move on to the next little filly."

I suppose I dont believe in love anymore. Why should I?

The premise that American men are among the worst is just Bull Shit, I'm sorry.  Who are you hanging out with?  Boys or actual men?  Also how can you say that "Most men aren't the least bit interested in learning what they can do to please you"?  Have you been with "most men"?  Of course not.  Even if you were exceptionally promiscuous and slept with a different guy every day for ten years you still would not have been with "most men", so how can you make an assessment about them?

I am an American and I do not choose to align myself with a philosophy and culture of selfishness.  America is about opportunity, freedom, and personal responsibility.  Of course there are selfish Americans, but there are just as many selfish Germans, greeks, Italians, etc.  Don't even get me started on the French.

I do agree with part of what you said; some men are lazy.  If one woman doesn't do it for them there is another willing female right around the corner.  I hold women equally responsible for this condition.  Women ALLOW men to get away with way too much.  If women didn't give it up so easy and made a guy earn it like in the old days then mens behavior would improve across the board.  It's the way of the world.

The bottom line is that women actually rule the world, they always have.  You as a woman have the power to establish the standards for men in your life.  You don't have to deal with lazy men unless you choose to.  I think the flaw is in your selection process not in the male gender itself.  There are plenty of good men who love pleasing women Passionflower, you may have to raise your standards or look a little harder to find them, that's all.

 

posted by A_Norseman on October 15, 2006 at 2:29 PM | link to this | reply

posted by A-and-B on October 15, 2006 at 2:16 PM | link to this | reply

Dear Passionflower,

You know what works well for me? Instead of putting energy into a relationship I put it into me and my future and life.

posted by Moxie_Maven on October 15, 2006 at 2:06 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower

maybe its all the sun we have here that makes them passionate

posted by lustorlove on October 15, 2006 at 1:51 PM | link to this | reply

I know who it is...

posted by shelly_b on October 15, 2006 at 1:46 PM | link to this | reply

LOL... I only asked once before! I'm a curious cat... LOL

posted by -blackcat on October 15, 2006 at 1:40 PM | link to this | reply

LOL Blackcat...you've been trying to get that name outta me

For a while, haven't you? You're a very tricky girl!

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 1:39 PM | link to this | reply

You make a good point LadyChar.

We rarely ever just sit down with each other and rationally discuss what IS and IS NOT working in a relationship. We just go along blindly till it blows up.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 1:36 PM | link to this | reply

do I know the mystery man? Is he active here?

posted by -blackcat on October 15, 2006 at 1:36 PM | link to this | reply

Lustor...just the opposite here.

No idea where the passionate guys are out there.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 1:35 PM | link to this | reply

Who knows Blackcat?

It might be fun knowing whether he did or not. {did i mention that I have a dark streak?}

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 1:34 PM | link to this | reply

Don't analyze me Blanche!

I DO realize that I put myself into dead-end relationships bec secretly I don't want them to work out. I don't want to find a decent guy and get into a LTR. Whatever!

Again, I have no idea how to change these things about myself. Do you?

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 1:33 PM | link to this | reply

kissing

I havent found too many bad kissers but they have to keep up and be as good as I am

posted by lustorlove on October 15, 2006 at 1:16 PM | link to this | reply

LOL... well, alrighty then! Will he be reading?

posted by -blackcat on October 15, 2006 at 12:43 PM | link to this | reply

that last line was precious

the truth is - women tend to tell men their "shortcomings" usually in the heat of an argument or break-up.  we usually let a few things slide - but they will tell us right away what they don't like about us.  at least the losers i have dated.

posted by ladychardonnay on October 15, 2006 at 12:33 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower, I'm not in any way presenting myself as a poster child

God knows, there's a reason why I've been single most of my adult life, until 42, but M learned a story from an old friend of his, the guy had one bad relationship after another, and it hit him, "What did all my failed relationships have in common? Me." 

You may not be giving the right ones the chance, if you're still chasing bad boys.

posted by Blanche. on October 15, 2006 at 12:20 PM | link to this | reply

I know I'm cynical Blanche...just don't know how to change it.

I also know that there are a few good ones...but only a few. The majority are the way I've described here.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 12:17 PM | link to this | reply

Kathu...The saddest part is that those who DO really need

To read this and realize some things about themselves and grow up a little...those are the very guys who won't read it. They delude themselves into thinking there's something wrong with YOU instead of them.

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 12:15 PM | link to this | reply

There are always exceptions to the rules, Ariel.

And I do think that American men are probably some of the worst. Our nation is about selfishness.

It's all about ME. What about me?

 Most men aren't the least bit interested in learning what they can do to please you. Their attitude is, "Hey! If this one doesn't like me the way I am, I'll just move on to the next little filly."

I suppose I dont believe in love anymore. Why should I?

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 12:14 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower,

how very true! I know some men in my life who need to read this.

posted by Kasthu on October 15, 2006 at 12:12 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower, it sounds like YOU'RE pretty hurt and pissed off.

Men aren't the only narcissists.  I mean look around you...  I know at least one good kisser, lol, but I'm not sharing.

Anyway, I hope your day goes better. Getting mixed up with a married man is a soul-destroying proposition. Been there, done that, bought the memorial tshirt. About the only thing I can ay is that it was a "learning experience".  if somebody's going to lie to themselves and to their wife, what makes you think they'd have any qualms about lying to you? 

Sad world, sometimes, but you're way better off without him.  Not all men are bastards, though. I know a few good guys.

posted by Blanche. on October 15, 2006 at 11:52 AM | link to this | reply

Passion

 

Oh dear, you do sound cynical and disillusioned!

Mine is a small, still voice crying in the wilderness, but I have to say that we are not all like that, Passionflower.

At the risk of appearing narcisssistic, I have to say that I've lost count of the times that Lady Ariela has said to me " We were talking today ( she and some female friends, that is ) and X said 'Well, you know what men are like, don't you' and I said " Well, no, actually I don't. Terry isn't a bit like that/doesn't do that/doesn't expect me to ( or not to ) do such and such."

This is because I've always believed that love should liberate, not enslave, and I practice what I preach.

 

 

posted by ariel70 on October 15, 2006 at 11:50 AM | link to this | reply

Oh goodie...Ginnie...I'm so thankful to have ONE reader

Who isn't angry.  

posted by Passionflower on October 15, 2006 at 11:47 AM | link to this | reply

Looks like I was the first to read this Passion...

...and I'm not a man so you didn't piss me off anyway! 

posted by ginnieb on October 15, 2006 at 11:35 AM | link to this | reply