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I can't belive this
What is wrong with people today for one thing I don't think it is any ones business what or who others are attracted to I find this very unsettling and bother some I have gay friends or bi there is nothing wrong with them they are strong positive and hard working people ,What will be next I will pray for your friend I am sorry for what has happened to him
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Kat02
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October 5, 2006
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Artifact
Reading
this shook me out of my quiet reading. You are doing something to help
in accepting him for who he is and for his decision however I can
imagine how helpless you feel. I think that when you next talk to him
that it is best that you don't tell him to sign the admission because
from where he is sitting that would feel too radical. However, you can
be a voice from outside in the real world sowing seeds in his mind.
Very subtly you can plant some thoughts that may help him to
shift his perspective. Even telling him normal stuff about people
you know and things you are doing. Keep it normal - be it news of
straight or gay friends. Take care. He is lucky to have you.
On another tack, you could
subtly let someone in the press know about this - not mentioning your
friend, People need to know this is going on.
posted by
Azur
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October 5, 2006
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I can't believe this
I too beleive that homosexuality can't be "fixed." It's one of those things you're born being--you just can't help it. I really feel awful for this guy and know that, even though I can hope for the best for him, that things will probably not have a happy ending for him.
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Kasthu
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October 5, 2006
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I am so very, very sorry about this.
I wish parents would learn to simply accept their children for the people they are.
posted by
bel_1965
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October 5, 2006
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Sometimes you can be victim of whims and circumstances without
ever knowing what is right and wrong and you may fall in wrong hands . Is it not that people come from good families become crooks and start justifying their criminal acts of cheating and lying so can happen with sex or change of shift in attitude when in wrong or right hands . Good post .
posted by
afzal50
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October 5, 2006
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Thank you all for commenting, I really do appreciate it...
To my friend, that piece of paper is more than it seems: it is an
admission of guilt, of him being funamentally wrong and evil. I
know that he will never sign it. I wish he would, because he
shouldn't have to suffer for his parents' ignorance, but I'm damn proud
that he won't.
I am feeling better now, than you all. It's just that, every now
and then, something happens in my life that makes me remember that the
world really is fundamentally a terrible, terrible place, with just a
few fragile layers of good stretched over it. And all it takes is
someone's flippant decision to rip those layers of good to pieces
forever.
Why is it so hard for people to say, "do what makes you happy"?
posted by
Artifact
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October 5, 2006
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I've never heard of such a thing. That's just crazy. What is wrong with
people? It's complete ignorance.
I hope you're able to speak to your friend. As everyone else already seems to have said, he should probably just sign the paper and get out as soon as possible. Maybe one day they'll accept him as he is... but until then he should probably just practice the "don't ask don't tell" policy until he can get out of their house. It's sad, but probably the only choice he has at the moment.
I have to say, I can't believe that people are really like this. When someone chooses religion over their own child, there is something seriously wrong.
posted by
-blackcat
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October 4, 2006
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How positively IGNORANT some people are!
See, I was trying to read without commenting tonight, and then I came to this post...
I just can't fathom how people can even attempt to justify this...if their kid joined a cult where they were brainwashing him, they'd be up in arms! But they can try to brainwash him all they want? And, frankly, a cult stands better chance of success than changing a teen's sexuality...
I hope he just signs the damn paper and tells them what they want to hear. They have a serious problem, and there is no reason for him to undergo extended torture because of it. I just hope he does not do anything truly desperate, like run away. That would be even sadder to have him on the street because of it.
posted by
FactorFiction
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October 4, 2006
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OMG, Artifact...
This is truly enraging to me. I have gay and lesbian friends, and I could never, ever fathom them being any other way. It has never once affected my relationships with these people and it never will.
That his own parents would commit this kind of abduction makes me sick!! Parents are supposed to love and protect their children unconditionally. But don't be mistaken...God loves this young man just the way he is, and He will protect him.
His parents need to face up to the reality of his situation. Medical studies have proven that homosexuality IS NOT a choice. It is in fact a condition over which the person it affects has no control.
I will pray for your friend. He has my love as do you. If you need to talk, please don't hesitate. Peace be unto you....
posted by
lovelyladymonk
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October 4, 2006
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That is so terribly wrong, Artifact. No one can choose their sexuality.
Why would someone choose to bring such a thing on themselves, because of the treatment you've just described. I wonder how much of this is perpetrated by hypocrites like Mark Foley, who as a senator, ran a congressional committeee on children's safety. Talk about letting the wolf in with the chickens.
If I were in your friend's shoes, I'd tell the Nazis and his parents whatever they wanted to hear, sign the damned paper, just to get out of there, and make alternate plans for another life, one far away from his parents, because if they will go to these extremes it seems clear that neither his life or his happiness are as important to him as they're having a "perfect child". whom they can show off to their friends and church members. It isn't going to work.
posted by
Blanche.
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October 4, 2006
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Oh Artifact,
I am so sorry for your friend and the pain you're going through too. I'm sorry that this sort of thing exists. The pain we put each other through is so pointless. Our judgements... our beliefs that are just that... beliefs... we try to control each other for what? They will do nothing but damage him and their relationship with him. The shame that will likely be attached to him while he is there will probably take years to undo. I have so many gay friends who are amazing people and if they spent the rest of their lives in a correction camp, they'd still be attracted to men. I hope you can stay in touch with him and be the support he needs. I hope he stays strong. I suppose he could sign the damn paper just to get out. At that point I'd try to get emancipated if he has anywhere he could go.
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