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Hello nonconformist
and thank you for dropping in. This is the first sonnet I've written, and you do have to follow the rules a bit but I think I will try again, it's good discipline.
posted by
mneme
on October 1, 2006 at 4:36 AM
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Hi Marie-Claire - quite a bit older than you I think! And I had a nice day, thank you.
posted by
mneme
on October 1, 2006 at 4:34 AM
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY sweetie!
wonder if you are as young as me... Mine is on the twelth, in case you want to send me a present, here is my address... just kidding. So have a great one!
posted by
marieclaire66
on September 30, 2006 at 3:52 PM
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I write a lot of poetry but you are all getting above my head....
...I'm beginning to wonder if I'm doing it all wrong!
(Though my tutor at our two hour a week class did once say I had "almost" written a sonnet. Only problem is I hadn't been meaning to!?)
posted by
nonconformist
on September 30, 2006 at 8:33 AM
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Things are ok, thank you Marie-Claire
and I very often write a poem a day but most are not intended for publication - not yet at least. Sometimes I do put them up as a post and see how they go.. never stop writing really. Tomorrow is my birthday - another one!
posted by
mneme
on September 30, 2006 at 4:10 AM
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Hi Mneme how are things!!
thanks for your wonderful explanation, dadum is such a simple way of getting across all that technicalia. The only thing I do, do is write a poem a day, no matter how crap, I have decided to get something on paper. It has become part of my routine. It gets hard if you are too busy but I try anyway. I just had a friend over from Melbourne today so did not have much time for anything. You must write something, anything I don't care you are good at this!
posted by
marieclaire66
on September 30, 2006 at 2:28 AM
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You are both too kind
Ypunday and Marie-Claire, and as an ESL teacher (volunteer) in a previous life I can understand you might have trouble with scansion (a new word for me). The best way I have heard of describing the sound of iambic pentametre is "da-dum, da-dum, da-dum, da-dum, da-dum" - like a heartbeat, with the accent on the second syllable (for example "When I do count the clock that tells the time" - Sonnet 12) I'm not sure my emphasis was always right, though I did follow Shakespeare's rhyme scheme (abab cdcd efef gg), which makes three quatrains and a couplet. Very hard work! I'm glad you liked it.
I am thinking about a book one day, who knows? Very busy just now so I am happy just writing little bits here and there when the mood takes me, I'm not very disciplined I'm afraid.
posted by
mneme
on September 30, 2006 at 1:56 AM
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Valiant effort, ditto to Ypun's words! I have the same problem but worse.
I should have a go at this one day, it would teach me about rhythm and discipline which I lack. I have so far put this in the too hard basket... case?? Mneme, you have flair and I see this a good effort, it is cleverly done. It goes to show you can always write something when you put your mind to it. The scansion part really gets me, I cannot "hear" it and then English is way too flexible with pronunciation, a second language learner's nightmare. Still, it is all good fun is not it? I think technicalities help but I have read too many clever perfect poems that don't do a thing for me, that is my excuse for my ignorance and breaking all the rules I never even knew existed. I have read poems from people who never read another poem in their lives and they are just as good. There is a freshness about them, education can dull the senses and imagination. I have the imagination but the technicalities still elude me. Mneme, are you writing ) or going to a book or something? Use your gift and let us all enjoy it, don't hesitate to share it with us.
posted by
marieclaire66
on September 29, 2006 at 3:21 PM
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Everybody--come read this ordinary-extraordinary Sonnet. Made simple
--but I admit, as one who had another first language ay\until school began at age 6 for me, I find it difficult to do scansion: I cannot tell the accented from the unaccented words when we deal with many multi-syllabic words. Then too, accents, do vary and makes for diffrences in Iambic Pentameter (mainly US, UK and South Africa compared)???what' do you think?
Loved the effort, diction and effort here, Brava! neil
posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on September 29, 2006 at 11:54 AM
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