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Whacky...We need to do something more quickly than that-

This latest general was quoted as saying that Rumsfeld needed to be replaced immediately. Every day he's in charge, it costs more innocent lives.

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 7:58 PM | link to this | reply

Vote I guess.

posted by Whacky on September 26, 2006 at 7:45 PM | link to this | reply

Guess I've developed a "Radar" for those who are

Just "Aching" for a battle...I could tell he was ready to pull off the gloves - He just doesn't know about my new "No Bullshit" policy...LOL!

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 7:00 PM | link to this | reply

I hear you, Passionflower. It upset me, too. I was going to leave anyway

go to the post office, but I left right after that.  I was mentally kicking myself the whole way for falling into that old trap. 

posted by Blanche. on September 26, 2006 at 6:55 PM | link to this | reply

If he comes back here saying anything derogatory or negative

He'll get blocked....I just can't deal with any more stress right now. I'm maxed out on every level.

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 6:52 PM | link to this | reply

I'm afraid so, Passionflower, back in the day,

we've had differences of opinion before.  I agree, it's pointless, and I'm sorry if I upset you, which is that last thing I want to do.  I have my opinons, and he has his, and we are just not going to see eye to eye.  If  he comments after me, addressing mine, I'll just let you deal with it. 

posted by Blanche. on September 26, 2006 at 6:48 PM | link to this | reply

LOL Blanche...didn't realize that you guys had a "HISTORY"

I guess many of us have been around here too long and have 'history' with a few too many. Corbin acted like he thought he and I were "old rivals" or something but he's got me mixed up with somebody else.

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 6:46 PM | link to this | reply

Katray....I couldn't agree more.

We MUST NOT dismiss these claims by decorated men of war.

"Blind Loyalty" in this situation would be assinine and unforgiveable. We MUST attempt to uncover the truth for the sake of those who are risking their lives at this very moment for our liberty.

Anything else would be a betrayal toward our soldiers.

 

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 6:44 PM | link to this | reply

I apologize Passionflower, and I will watch myself in the future.

I need to take a deep breath and count to ten before I start squabbling with Corbin again.  I'm slipping again, and I promised myself I would just ignore him.

posted by Blanche. on September 26, 2006 at 6:43 PM | link to this | reply

Avant...I think my most important CLUE -

Is my own "gut feeling" about Rumsfeld.

I think Bush has convinced himself that what he's doing is for the greater good, but I'm almost certain he orchestrated the war simply in order to gain control of Iraq.

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 6:40 PM | link to this | reply

Interesting debate Passionflower

Always good for democracy when issues can be discussed in a reasonable and respectful atmosphere. If the statements of military commanders who have actually been in battle and know the realities of the situation in Iraq up close and personal are dismissed without deeper thought and consideration, that sounds like blind loyalty imo. Thank God these men are willing to shed whatever fealty to the administration they are expected to hold. The safety and condition of the troops should be a priority over politics and they are expressing that concern. My thoughts - Thanks again for posting this.

posted by katray4 on September 26, 2006 at 5:10 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower

I've gotten the feeling this man is clueless. This whole Iraq escapade has me disillusioned.

posted by avant-garde on September 26, 2006 at 4:56 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks for sharing your opinion about Donald, Offbeat...

I also want to say how much I appreciate you sharing your opinion in such a mature fashion. I wish everyone around here could learn how to share their opinion on a subject without getting their heads bents out of shape.

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 4:41 PM | link to this | reply

Corbin....you can be a wise-ass all you want to-

You just can't do it HERE IN MY FUCKING COMMENTS SECTION!

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 4:38 PM | link to this | reply

PF

Well I don't know quite what to say about you post except it is like Blanche said and opinion. However I love D.Rumsfeld and despite what someone may or may not post about him...he is one hell of a work horse and extremely qualified for his job. I admire the man and often wonder if anyone who writes about him knows how great his commitment is...But that is my opinion and quite a bit of the military that work for him...

posted by Offy on September 26, 2006 at 4:33 PM | link to this | reply

LOL  Unbelievable....have a wonderful evening....

posted by Corbin_Dallas on September 26, 2006 at 4:28 PM | link to this | reply

Corbin, please don't start anything with Blanche in

My comments section. I've had enough of that squabbling bullshit to last a lifetime and I won't put up with it anymore!

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 4:23 PM | link to this | reply

Corbin...of course you may disagree and you have.

Thanks for your comment.

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 4:22 PM | link to this | reply

Blanche....

That is your opinion.....and you know what they say about opinions and A-holes, everyone has one...like it or not......the man is now working to oust Pelosi from the Leadership position as he dreams of becoming Speaker of the House......

I am intitled to have my opinions, too...and to do so free of your constant sniping.......I am sure it's disheartening for someone to see their comment section turned into a mud pit........I was kind enough out of respect to Passion to just agree to disagree....and you have to chime in to start something. 

Ignore me Blanche.....please ignore me....it would be doing us both a big favor.

posted by Corbin_Dallas on September 26, 2006 at 4:20 PM | link to this | reply

Blanche...I believe what those general are saying.

I hate that our soldiers are risking their lives with someone as ignert as Rumsfeld running the show. There are plenty of qualified people -

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 4:20 PM | link to this | reply

Corbin...I have no idea what you're talking about.

You and I barely comment to one another and if we've had any negative history, I dont recall the incident...sorry.

I honestly don't believe that all of those generals would continue to say that Rumsfeld is a moron who is continually fucking up, unless it was really true. What would be their motive for lying?

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 4:16 PM | link to this | reply

Don't say that MysticGamer...It can't be true.

We have to do something about this situation.

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 4:12 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks anyway, Tanga.

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 4:11 PM | link to this | reply

Shams, I would settle for them getting fired TODAY!

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 4:10 PM | link to this | reply

Corbin, John Murtha is an esteemed officer, and a man of honor and

conscience.  The junior bush-league freshman female senator who attempted to do the hatchet job on his reputation, is out of office. John Murtha still has his Senate Armed Forces Committee seat.  His reputation and integrity will survive these snide canards your group keep trying to tarnishing him with.

Anyone with the integrity, conscience and balls to speak up, gets the same treatment: address the facts please and leave the hatchet job on others reputations out of it.  Facts speak for themselves. 

posted by Blanche. on September 26, 2006 at 4:06 PM | link to this | reply

Retired....as in no longer active.......how many hundreds of Generals are there that are active.  Their are plenty of Murtha's out there......who are willing to make a statement because they have an agenda.  Or perhaps a book deal is in the works.......I don't know if that the case with these  guys or not......perhaps they have the best of intentions.   I just happen to disagree.......am I not allowed to do that Blanche? 

posted by Corbin_Dallas on September 26, 2006 at 4:01 PM | link to this | reply

Passionflower, I saw an article in the paper today on this.

Two retired Army Major Generals and one retired Marine, (I can't remember his rank, Colornel?) testified in front of Congress on their opinion, based on their combined military experience in Iraq and training, which when you think about it, who would know better than these men what the situation is in Iraq? 

I trust their judgment, they have no reason to lie, and I hope their concern is more for the safety of the troops than for any political advantage. 

I love the fact that we have freedom of expression, but I can't say that Rumsfeld had anything to do with that.  In fact, if he had his way, I'm sure we'd probably all be put away for "treason". I love my country, it's the ones who are running it I have a problem with. 

posted by Blanche. on September 26, 2006 at 3:36 PM | link to this | reply

Passion....

As you would expect, I don't agree with your position on this....but ain't it wonderful to actually be able to live in a country that allows it's citizens to disagree..............

My hope is that things will occur that will hasten you to change your opinion in this matter on your own.....

Take care

posted by Corbin_Dallas on September 26, 2006 at 12:11 PM | link to this | reply

PFlower

probably nothing. THe powers that be have turned a blind eye to reality. We have given the enemy just what they wanted.  

posted by MysticGmekeepr on September 26, 2006 at 12:06 PM | link to this | reply

Tanga....

At least your honest.....

posted by Corbin_Dallas on September 26, 2006 at 9:02 AM | link to this | reply

Mystic... I honestly think Bush has himself

Convinced that he's doing this for the greater good. After all, this war is forcing Americans to search for other fuel sources besides crude oil --

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 9:00 AM | link to this | reply

Warrior...LOL! I love your idea.

But I think there are a few thousand people who would do the job for the pure JOY of it!

posted by Passionflower on September 26, 2006 at 8:59 AM | link to this | reply

why waste time with rummy????

he's just doing the President's bidding. Besides, he'd blow the lid off the WMD snowjob on the American public. Bush needs to be impeach and tried for war crimes against humanity.

posted by fwmystic on September 26, 2006 at 8:05 AM | link to this | reply

Collect all our blogit earnings and hire a hitman?

posted by SuccessWarrior on September 26, 2006 at 7:08 AM | link to this | reply

Not in a position to make a worthy comment

posted by Tanga on September 26, 2006 at 4:03 AM | link to this | reply

..start with massive email to your Senator and House Reps ?

posted by MasonGarrett on September 26, 2006 at 12:12 AM | link to this | reply

Passionflower

Well when you dump him we have a few shmucks up here to get rid of too luv.

posted by WileyJohn on September 25, 2006 at 8:58 PM | link to this | reply

You can say that again, Passionflower.

posted by Blanche. on September 25, 2006 at 8:51 PM | link to this | reply

The whole Bush group needs to be tried as war criminals

Getting the Rum runner out would be a great start.  Thanks for saying it like it is.

posted by Shams-i-Heartsong on September 25, 2006 at 8:49 PM | link to this | reply

Hey Star!

posted by Passionflower on September 25, 2006 at 6:49 PM | link to this | reply

hey passion

posted by star4sky5 on September 25, 2006 at 6:46 PM | link to this | reply

Blanche, I'm so worried about our soldiers.

They deserve better than this.

posted by Passionflower on September 25, 2006 at 6:27 PM | link to this | reply

I'm with Katray, Passionflower, I am hoping for changes in the elections.

Accountability, audits and investigations if the House turns over, and there's enough change in the seats.  I dread the thought of two more years of this, like the plague. 

posted by Blanche. on September 25, 2006 at 6:25 PM | link to this | reply

Afzal...I thought of that too.

We need to organize some protests.

posted by Passionflower on September 25, 2006 at 6:24 PM | link to this | reply

Katray...Thanks, That general saying

That Rumsfeld needed to be replaced IMMEDIATELY really freaked me out.

posted by Passionflower on September 25, 2006 at 6:23 PM | link to this | reply

Great post Passionflower - I'm very glad you carried this subject on, needs

to be known by as many Americans as possible. What can we do? Used to be getting in touch with your Congress people had some effect, but the majority of them are now so out of touch with those they are supposed to be representing that it's a futile effort. I'm hoping the elections in November will bring sweeping changes and Rumsfeld will be investigated by the legislative branch. That would reveal enough about his mishandling of the wars to give the administration no choice but to accept his resignation. If that doesn't happen, time for those of us who still care about this country and our soldiers to refer to Afzal's suggestion. Seriously.

 

posted by katray4 on September 25, 2006 at 6:19 PM | link to this | reply

Go for mass protest .

posted by afzal50 on September 25, 2006 at 6:09 PM | link to this | reply