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Nicely Put...

...sir!

And I'm sure you'll do all you can to ensure that at least you get the best outcome from the current mess.

Stay well.

D

posted by DamonLeigh on September 24, 2006 at 5:12 AM | link to this | reply

Mr Leigh,

 

I guess we can say that we car in opposite camps in a way or another.  I do not disagree with you baout the current status of Iraq, there is too much sectarian influence here and that behavior is tearing this place apart.  Each group only thinks for themselves yet again, this has goe for hundreds of years.

As far recieving, I meant, they expect things, the phrase "Mister, mister give me" is synonomous with one of the causes this place is not moving forward.  I will not defend the cause of the U.S. being here nor political aspects of the view, I may loose.  I can say hower, this people do not want peace or at least, they do not show signs for it.  I think i my opinion, is eye fo ran eye tooth for  a tooth.  Again, I stress:  "Ask not what your cuntry can do for you but what you can do for yoru country", (JFK).

THey need to put their heads together to achieve a greater goal....peace and prosperity

posted by michael_pilarte on September 24, 2006 at 2:20 AM | link to this | reply

Michael...

...I know what you do, I respect you for it, and I respect the fact you still come and read my rants here, even though we are, technically, in opposing camps.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'these people are used to receiving'. Prior to the first Gulf War (admittedly triggered by an act of aggression from Saddam) Iraq was a pretty self-sufficient place, with high employment and one of the best health care systems in the Middle East, if not the world. Now, after sanctions and the invasion, the place is screwed and, I believe, descending into civil war. Every day, it seems, tens of bodies turn up, bound, tortured and shot. No one I've ever spoken to thinks that Iraq is a better place today than it was pre-invasion. They are looking to receive now only because our actions have screwed them over so badly.

Just my opinion, of course.

Anyway, stay safe, and thatnks again for the comments.

D

posted by DamonLeigh on September 21, 2006 at 5:20 AM | link to this | reply

Dear friend...

Your point in highly noted and those stories cannot be contested.  However, I ask you this, what are these poeple doing to make their country better? Why not think of a greater will than their own skin and indentify who is militia and who is not.  These people know....they just wont say.  However, this is just my opinion which is not supported and I should not be comenting on these either.

p.s.  President Kennedy, on a ignaural speech said:  "Ask not what your Country can do for you, but ask, What can you do for your Country". 

These people are used to recieving and that is all the expect.  Again..is just my opinion

Another note, before yu or anyone else asks me;  "Yes, I have exposed my skin for a greater cause and I also have 6 screws in my neck to prove it"

Finally, I still enjoying reading

posted by michael_pilarte on September 21, 2006 at 3:11 AM | link to this | reply

Sobering is the right word for it.

posted by Dylan24 on September 14, 2006 at 7:26 PM | link to this | reply

Sobering stuff, DamonLeigh. I keep thinking of George Orwell and his

ideas of doublespeak and government authoritarianism in 1984 when Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush begin their tired and insidious litany on Iraq.  If progress in Iraq is measured in the number of steps backward the country has endured since the occupation, then, before it's over, Iraq, except for the exception of the Kurdish north, and especially Baghdad, will be able to find their way into the fifteenth century or earlier.  Disgusting.

posted by saul_relative on September 14, 2006 at 2:59 PM | link to this | reply