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Blanche -
I wonder if this is the quote you meant:
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life - daily and hourly. Our answer must consist, not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." - Victor Frankl
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sannhet
on August 6, 2006 at 11:20 AM
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Moon -
Thanks for the support. We do appear to see things the same way.
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sannhet
on August 6, 2006 at 11:16 AM
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Sannhet, I remember one line especially from Viktor Frankel's book,
"Man's Search For Meaning", I can only paraphrase, but he said something like "there is only one right answer for each situation". I think he had some wisdom in dealing with the aftermath of the Nazi camps and being a survivor of one himself.
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Blanche.
on August 5, 2006 at 3:38 PM
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Blanche -
Each of us is on a path and we have to do what we think is right for us. As we grow and learn, our path expands and hopefully we can expand with it. If we do, then we're that much closer to the Divine. If we don't, then we just keep learning. All I know is that I've got a lot of learning to do. Thanks for stopping by for the visit.
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sannhet
on August 5, 2006 at 3:29 PM
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Wiley -
I apologize for touching a nerve. I in no way am telling anybody how to live or what to do. That is what I was trying to get across in my response to Avant. My post was my atttempt to state what I believe is the ultimate goal that Yeshua spoke of. I also tried to get across to those who read it that I fail all of the time. But perhaps I failed at that as well.
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sannhet
on August 5, 2006 at 3:09 PM
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Sannhet, great post. I don't tell anyone else how to live (or at least try not to.) Their path is theirs; mine is mine. My path says give them something to eat; give them clothes; take them to the doctor. I used to work on the streets with the homeless for a couple of years until the city government made it illegal. I broke my own rules and occasionally gave people I knew money, also telling them I refused to bear their karma if they used it for something other than what they were telling me. Moon_Spirit 
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syzygy
on August 4, 2006 at 9:06 PM
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Sannhet, I'm with Wiley on this one, forgiveness is a good thing, but not
playing the same games over and over, and opening oneself up to the same type of treatment again and again. I have learned that in my own family, that some boundaries must be drawn and kept in order to prevent the same behaviors from recurring.
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Blanche.
on August 4, 2006 at 8:47 PM
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Sannhet
We are not all failures because we have to move past some people or shut some people out. Even siblings.
There is such a thing as starting with just taking care of the self first and not being a burden to others.
Once we can cope by ourselves we can move out to accept others, or choose to live in solitary bliss and not hurt others.
Sorry, you touched a raw nerve tonight my friend. Enjoy your posts.
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WileyJohn
on August 4, 2006 at 8:43 PM
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Avant -
I can understand the dilema, but I've come to not view it as enabling their dependency. And I also don't worry about drawing lines. I have enough trouble figuring out my path, let alone theirs. Maybe dependency on alcohol and drugs is the path they have to be on right now. Yeshua said if someone hits you on the cheek, to offer them the other. If they ask for your tunic, give them your cloak as well. And to give to the one that asks you. This is my approach. Thanks for stopping by and visiting, as always.
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sannhet
on August 4, 2006 at 5:20 PM
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Sannhet
I try to treat everyone equally at work, but I need to work on it more away from work. I get people hitting me up for money sometimes, and I tell them that I'm not supporting their habit. I gave one guy a cookie because he said his sugar was low and he looked offended. He wanted alcohol money. It's hard to know where to draw the line. Do you create a dependency or not? Do you hold authority over them and dictate how they should live, or bless them and move on? So many choices, each having its own outcome. Good to read you again.
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avant-garde
on August 4, 2006 at 4:43 PM
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Rumored -
Feel free to use it, my friend! And thanks for visiting.
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sannhet
on August 4, 2006 at 6:36 AM
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Bel -
Thanks! And thanks for stopping by.
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sannhet
on August 4, 2006 at 6:36 AM
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Sannhet, what a powerful post...your slant on what we can or can't handle
usually we think about temptations, not loving our neighbor and forgiving...may I use this post in our church newsletter if the opportunity comes up??
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Rumor
on August 3, 2006 at 9:55 PM
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This is wonderful
A very important lesson for everyone.
posted by
bel_1965
on August 3, 2006 at 8:55 AM
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