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sannhet
i thought i got an inkling of that
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 19, 2006 at 10:42 AM
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Xeno -
When Paul admitted he was incomplete, he was also acknowledging his humility - something that many who profess to know the Truth seem to lack.
posted by
sannhet
on July 19, 2006 at 7:08 AM
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posted by
syzygy
on July 18, 2006 at 11:42 PM
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Xeno....,
Cantey's remark, is the best argument to answer your question. I was about to respond exactly what he has commented. I think it is the first comment. Bless you.
posted by
twelve12
on July 18, 2006 at 4:36 PM
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Xeno-X That is true, but we can't do it on our own, just look at the world
around you -- We need God, and believe me He is always there ready to listen, and help if we follow His directions!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on July 18, 2006 at 3:02 PM
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yes i know
growth from childhood involves learning.
many biological adults are mental, social and emotional children because they haven't been taught.
the process of learning involves accepting what is taught, at first, then discerning what is taught.
plane geometry is one of the best examples of good learning.
one starts with simple premises, certain proven things, such as the square of the hypotenuse of a right triangle is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides -- then proves theorems, and then each theorem is proven by using existing theorems.
learning is the process of building validity.
Paul tried to impress upon those wto whom he was writing that all our huymanknkowledge -- that of each and every one of us is certainly incomplete.
being incomplete, we should be striving for the more complete, not accepting a static state in which we feel there is nothinig more to learn and we need no more changes.
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 18, 2006 at 3:00 PM
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Xeno-X -- Don't forget that just a few verses above your included verses,
Paul writes, "When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child, When I became a man, I put away childish ways behind me. Paul was speaking both of chronological growth and spiritual growth, for when he became a Christian, old things passed away, and all things become new (II Cor. 5:17) and it is in that newness of life, we are filled with the Holy Spirit of God, and as we yield to Him, he leads, guides and directs our life into that which pleases God, and brings us the highest fulfillment of life.
posted by
MountainClimber57
on July 18, 2006 at 2:51 PM
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i read it
i am trying to decipher still if you have knowledge so perfect -- that you don't "know in part"
if that which is perfect has come to you -- as it hadn't to the Apostle Paul.
if so, then you are honored by god indeed.
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 18, 2006 at 2:45 PM
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Like I said, its not Paul himself that qualified him for the knowledge he received, but his willingness and purity of haert which any can possess. Paul even said he was the least of the apostles. You are making it into an issue of worthiness of man. Blessed are the pure in heart for the shall see God. The limit of mans revelation from God is not limited to the apostle Paul. We will always know in part because we will be forever learning. However, after the veil of fallen flesh is removed, we will know much more clearly.
but no, I really do not believe I posses the depth of revelation that Paul had. But you see my point.
posted by
calmcantey75
on July 18, 2006 at 2:43 PM
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Xeno-X -- Did you read the scriptures I mentioned
No I am not perfect but I do have access to his perfect spirit through prayer, and in that great I Cor. chapter 13, through His love for me, and my love for Him, we can have a dynamic life changing, soul saving, spirit sustaining day by day relationship.
posted by
MountainClimber57
on July 18, 2006 at 2:41 PM
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MountainClimber56
you also are an apostle greater than the apostle paul?
you also have perfect knowledge?
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 18, 2006 at 2:37 PM
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cantey
so you are an apostle greater than the apostle paul?
have you received perfect knowledge when the Apostle Paul didn't?
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 18, 2006 at 2:35 PM
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Xeno-X -- While you are reading I Corinthians, also read chapter
2:8-16, and your questions will be answered!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on July 18, 2006 at 2:34 PM
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you are elevating the apostle Paul to a
posotion of superiority that he does not posses. All Christians have access to the same Spirit that provided him with revelation knowledge. It was not his own virtue that granted him such knowledge, but the same grace that is available to you and me. Jesus Himself said: greater works than these ( meaning His earthly works) shall you do. If Jesus said we would do greater works than Himself, surely we can receive greater revelations than Paul.
posted by
calmcantey75
on July 18, 2006 at 2:33 PM
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