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OK, I respect that...
it is just  that you sounded like someone I know.

posted by Friar__Tuck on July 11, 2006 at 10:26 AM | link to this | reply

but i never said
that there arn't good people. i've seen many good people get tested - and fail miserably, at the goodness test.

when it comes to things like protecting reputations, protecting money, i've seen otherwise decent, honorable, restrained people throw all those values aside, and cling, with terror, to their sense of security. even if it means deserting friends and loved ones.

so, many who seem good, are, underneath it all, blindly self serving. i have yet to meet a good person who can pass these tests of moral fibre.

i don't blame christianity, or jesus - i do blame, in large part, religion, government, and large corporations.

like you, i once believe that people are basically good - but now, more like freud, i believe that people are basically bad.

i'm a lot happier now.  my expectations of others are very low, and now i can focus my attention on my expectations for myself.

so, maybe you're right. maybe i do think that there arn't many good people about.

posted by astromuffy on July 10, 2006 at 6:36 PM | link to this | reply

I don't know...
i do have a very dark view of the world and christianity - the free world has been mostly christian dominated (but that is now changing), and the free world is a mess - a disaster.
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the world is falling away because of our actions, and the prophecy of revelation is self fufilling - there's nothing supernatural, or mysterious about it.

... really, astromuffy, which part of the world have you seen?  Perhaps the world would be in a far greater mess without Christianity, I don't know.  But even if you take away Christianity, I believe people are basically good.  And there isn't any part of the world, no matter how bad, where you don't find good people. 

posted by Friar__Tuck on July 10, 2006 at 3:04 PM | link to this | reply

it's true
i do have a very dark view of the world and christianity - the free world has been mostly christian dominated (but that is now changing), and the free world is a mess - a disaster.

christianity hasn't worked. is it because there are so many christian sects? i dunno.

is it because god seem to contradict himself in the bible over and over again? i dunno.

is it because christians don't truly worship and practice their christinaity, and the laws of christianity as well as some other religions worship their god, and practice their laws? i dunno.

the world is falling away because of our actions, and the prophecy of revelation is self fufilling - there's nothing supernatural, or mysterious about it.

but i still love your work.

if you wern't such a devout catholic, i'd ask to collaborate on a book with you.

posted by astromuffy on July 10, 2006 at 1:26 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks for the vote of confidence...
but astromuffy, you seem to have a very dark view of the world and Christianity.  It is true that sometimes Christians show themselves to be the opposite of who they are called to be, but it is sweeping to say that they are that at all times and at all places.  The world may look as if it is going to the dogs, but have a heart:  after all if you really believe it, (and even Paul has said it), what we see now are the death throes of  a world that is passing away. 

posted by Friar__Tuck on July 10, 2006 at 11:05 AM | link to this | reply

excellent work!

"The disciples will go each to his own at the moment of Jesus' arrest: they will fall away. Not even the remonstration and pledge of allegiance of Peter at the supper table will prevent this from happening. He too, at the crowing of the cock, shall have fallen like the rest."

i'm blown away by your insights.

in each instance, you are talking about a foreshadowing of rejection.

the above quote seems to foreshadow what has been happening to the integrity of christianity for the past 2000 years.

i'm convinced that many who call themselves christians do not truly believe in christ, don't truly believe in the ten commands, and don't truly believe in the gospel of christian love.

most have are content to be caught in the net of the dogma, and docterine provided by the numerous sects of christianity.

and so, christ is rejeted again, and replaced by the false idols provided by religion, and called christ, as christian society sinks further and further into degenerecy and chaos.

you have a new fan!


posted by astromuffy on July 9, 2006 at 12:03 PM | link to this | reply