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You can bring a shift in others by shifting yourself
I like to think that everytime we want someone or something to be different, we have to become that.  The change starts with us.

posted by Greenfields on July 15, 2006 at 9:57 PM | link to this | reply

BrightIrish, good comment. I suspect that many people
go through life without ever realizing that

posted by Azur on July 9, 2006 at 6:44 PM | link to this | reply

Azur
PostSmile! Good thoughts!  People will not change until they find something about themselves that they want to change. I know that I had to change some of my beliefs when I realized they really were not mine but thoughts that I'd grown up with before I encountered the real world.

posted by BrightIrish on July 9, 2006 at 4:38 PM | link to this | reply

Sabsline
He was a very wise man

posted by Azur on July 8, 2006 at 4:32 PM | link to this | reply

Gr8 words indeed.In the words of Mahatma Ghandi, be the change you want to see in others!

posted by Sabsline on July 8, 2006 at 4:00 PM | link to this | reply

Great post....a lot of changes happen when we least expect them
especially when we are not thinking about it...

posted by _Symphony_ on July 8, 2006 at 5:42 AM | link to this | reply

Azur
I think you are right. We can only manage ourselves well. We can guide and assist if asked, which is very natural and inoffensive.

posted by avant-garde on July 8, 2006 at 2:46 AM | link to this | reply

Azur, profound thoughts on something we try to do to others every day

"The only person you can change is yourself. " Not spouse, nor children, not even those we preside over will change for us.

But there is a widespread effort to hammer away, even mercilessly, with the hope that a person's worldview will be so shakenm he or she will change AS and WHEN we want. It happened after the Great Plague in Europe -- I do not think the Reformation would have pccured had there been good times, good health, and good prospects for the middle and lower classes.

posted by ILLUMINATI8 on July 7, 2006 at 9:23 PM | link to this | reply

Cringe
That is my philosophy when I teach. Beyond that I do not expect to change people

posted by Azur on July 7, 2006 at 2:11 PM | link to this | reply

Mademoiselle
Homer is a great philosopher

posted by Azur on July 7, 2006 at 2:04 PM | link to this | reply

TAPS-
Exactly, and yet people live in torment trying to change others

posted by Azur on July 7, 2006 at 2:02 PM | link to this | reply

Azur, What people are and believe did not come about over night.   Years of input, digestion, rehashing, altering, assimilating and rejecting of lessons, opinions, advice, and examples, have gone into the making of an adult.   How can one adult expect to bring about change in another after all that work has been done and one has settled into what they think is right for them?

posted by TAPS. on July 7, 2006 at 1:56 PM | link to this | reply

I gave up long ago on attempting to alter the mindsets of others. 

As the great philosopher Homer J. Simpson once noted,

"I guess some people never change.  Or, they quickly change and then quickly change back again."

posted by Mademoiselle on July 7, 2006 at 1:42 PM | link to this | reply

Azur - you can't really change someone, you can just hope that you
provide them with enough insight or information for them to do it of their own accord.

posted by Cringe on July 7, 2006 at 1:27 PM | link to this | reply

In other words I have no more answers than anyone

posted by Azur on July 7, 2006 at 1:18 PM | link to this | reply