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Bible Quoters
When will the Bible quoters realize that the Bible is NOT an authority for all people? It certainly is not for me. It is an interesting book of superstition about a hypothetical set of deities.
More importantly, when will people stop foisting their religious beliefs on others?
posted by
archiew
on July 8, 2006 at 4:31 AM
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Xeno-x,
More educational stuff, here. And you give your readers a lot to think about. I have become more interested in this debate than I expected. Debates like this really help open our minds and discuss such subjects, however sensitive, in a mature and intelligent manner. I hope you get lots more comments. Thanks. :)
posted by
BlackPearl1
on June 24, 2006 at 9:18 AM
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NOPEACE HERE IS THE ACTUAL VERSE
| 1Cr 6:9 | Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, |
shall inherit the kingdom of God.
what you have quoted is a later interpretation.
but we have to take our machete and slash through the jungle of the King James and look at the Greek source text.
effeminate -- is KJV's one word interpretation for "those who let themselves be abused by mankind"
and abusers of themselves with mankind -- we are talking about homosexuality here. - but if you were to check into the homosexuality known at that time and compare it to that of today, you would find that 1st century practice was in deed abusive, whereas what I know of from people I know is no more abusive than a heterosexual relationship.
but still there is no THOU SHALL NOT attached to homosexuality -- check the Ten Commandments again. -- you don't see a commandment against homosexuality.
if there is no law against it then it is not against the law; therefore, it is not sin, for sin is the transgression of the law.
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 22, 2006 at 11:56 AM
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Scout's Honor? Yeah Right.
Xeno,
As I stated in my post, it does not matter whether or not a person agrees with the law but to be right with the law, they must obey the law.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV): "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural [para physin] ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."
posted by
NOPEACE
on June 22, 2006 at 10:15 AM
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Xeno-x - I wrote a post with this subject last night
finished it off this morning, then posted it and then read this post.
Even though you do provide me with much inspiration, I didn't consciously steal your idea . . scout's honour.
posted by
gomedome
on June 22, 2006 at 7:53 AM
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