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That's exactly right, Straightforward. The problem usually rests in the
fact terrible that we've become an information society, not a performance society.  We gather and gather, but we do nothing with that which we gather.  In the meantime, people die needlessly, lives are ruined.

posted by saul_relative on May 10, 2006 at 9:09 AM | link to this | reply

it's horrifying, but i guess our focus has to be on why is this happening
and what can we do?

posted by Straightforward on May 10, 2006 at 8:58 AM | link to this | reply

Excellent points and well-stated, FranklyMyDear. What we have here, to
quote a certain famous line, is a failure to communicate -- on any level.  We have a breakdown in discipline, personal and social.  We have a virtual absence of personal and social accountability.  We hype consumerism and materialistic gain.  We devalue human life, culture, and artistry.  At the same time we pay lip service to family values, love, and peace, we hypocritically deny them all access to our and our children's lives.  Want to change it all?  Start with teaching your children a little self-respect, give them self-worth, and teach self-discipline (set boundaries).   Life isn't an endless game of rewards, self-glorification, and constant self-gratification. 

posted by saul_relative on May 10, 2006 at 8:51 AM | link to this | reply

It is difficult, redwood, because there is a basic revulsion against this
type of behavior on a personal and a social level.  Somewhere, these kids get disconnected from themselves and those around them.

posted by saul_relative on May 10, 2006 at 8:42 AM | link to this | reply

Missed that one, Mademoiselle. But there seems to be so many any more,
especially near the end of the school year.  What's that all about?  Spring fever?  I don't think the little dumbasses realize that instead of anticipating summer break, they'll be hoping for a jailbreak.   

posted by saul_relative on May 10, 2006 at 8:40 AM | link to this | reply

blame the media...the parents....society as a whole
What the hell has happened here? Where I live, the kinder gentler Canada, a 12 yr old girl just killed her parents and brother...13 and 14 yr olds have been charged with armed robbery...this just in teh lsat two weeks...kids killing kids, themselves, their parents...on and on...what galls me is that no one in government or the media is seriously taking note (other than to sensationalize and pay lip service to the messed up state of kids...what happened to parents sitting down with their kids for dinner, hell, what happened to parents simply being around for thier kids...then comes the idle time for kids and the music,(rap/hip hop which condones and glorifies killing, etc etc) and  the elctronic games (desensitizing) that sucks the physical life out of kids and grown ups alike...anyhow, this is going nowhwere, this rambling diatribe...but my theory is that most of our problems have grown out of the ridiculous notion/lifestyle that having more "stuff" is going to make us happy...go back to Nixon's time, where the dollar was unhinged from gold and economies in North America became consumer based...that's the time when all the bad stuff started happening in our society...and we're all caught up in it...parents don't have time for anyone but their work and their relentless pursuit of acquisitions...and kids go crazy because they have had the life controlled right out of them by schools, parents, because if you can control them, then you can go get more stuff...and we've controlled kids imaginations, set them in front of games, computers, etc etc...but kids grow up, and becuase htey've been controlled all of their lives, without ever having learned how to go outside and play games, etc, they find more destructive ways to unload...and we disintegrate as a society...blame can be placed on just about everything and everyone...for buying into the consumeristic nonsense... stay home from the bloody wall mart for a change and go play ball with your kids...teach them skills that do not need a computer or a game controller....let them develop their imginations through nature and books...the boogey man will not steal your kids..let them play!!!!!!!!

posted by FranklyMydear1 on May 10, 2006 at 8:08 AM | link to this | reply

Frontier Middle School
Ten years ago I lived in the Moses Lake, Wa. area. There was a shooting at the Frontier Middle School.  I think that two students were killed and a teacher. Some wounded.  I can't rmember the exact numbers.  One of the kids killed was a nephew of my work supervisor. His son took the death of his cousin very hard.  Several months after the school incident, he waited until his dad (my boss) went to work. He shot and killed his mother, his younger sister, and then himself.  The school shooting phenomina is hard to fathom.

posted by redwood on May 10, 2006 at 6:48 AM | link to this | reply

I'm surprised that, up to this point, there haven't been ...

even more shootings than there have.  (Does that sentence make any sense?  It looks weird for some reason.)

At any rate, there was yet another supposed school house murder plot thwarted here (in Philly) just last week.

Justine never knew the rules,
Hung down with the freaks and the ghouls.

posted by Mademoiselle on May 9, 2006 at 11:03 PM | link to this | reply