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I agree.
It’s about equipping people with the tools to think and do for themselves.
you have coined the idea so well. Teaching is not so teacher centred these days, especially at university level, because we can assume that student have enough skills already to carry on studying independently.
However, in my subject area, a student learning a language relies very heavily on the teacher at the start, eventually, the aim is to wean them off the teacher's input. May be you see the role of the teacher as a mentor rather than someone being the font of all knowledge. With all the information at our finger tips, thanks to technology, I think one of the most important skills to have is research skills and a critical and perceptive mind, after all the knowledge is accessible to most thanks to the internet, but what you do with it is another matter...

posted by marieclaire66 on August 19, 2006 at 12:59 AM | link to this | reply

correction that it has moved on= not is.
I am doing a Jazwolf on you. sorry, but will read on...

posted by marieclaire66 on August 19, 2006 at 12:52 AM | link to this | reply

True enough. It has moved on in some ways, but as I look around my
children's classrooms, I see much of the same type of thing I did in my days in school.   I think a lot of the progress is still varying teacher to teacher.  I know I'm a different teacher than many of my colleagues.

posted by brettnik on March 7, 2006 at 12:37 PM | link to this | reply

200 years? Of course it has moved on since then. All we have to do is look at the way we communicate. I can get my assignments on line and have the resource to research right in front of me. Real time! I venture to say a lot of this type of teaching and learning has made a tremendous impact on how we teach and or are taught!

posted by Offy on February 4, 2006 at 4:47 PM | link to this | reply

Excellent
Equipping people to think and do says it all!!

posted by Dr_JPT on February 4, 2006 at 4:35 PM | link to this | reply

Azur--- Absolutely education is more than about the acquisition
of knowledge. In my experience, those who are "educated" are much more likely to be open minded and receptive to new ideas and different ways of thinking. They recognize that theirs is not the only way because they were exposed to diversity by moving away from home to attend university, living in dorms, meeting people from other states, countries, religions, etc. Classroom and/or computer education is valuable, of course, but it's one-dimensional and but a small part of a good education.

posted by Jazwolf on February 3, 2006 at 4:31 PM | link to this | reply

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The digital revolution has had a profound affect on the design and delivery of education.


In more ways than one!  I think, as a general rule, young people today have a far greater pool of knowledge to draw from.  And, thus, have (at least, on a superficial surface level) a much more varied, extensive education than their mothers could have ever dreamed of.  Well, my mother anyway.

 

Hey, teacher! Leave them kids alone!

posted by Mademoiselle on February 3, 2006 at 12:23 PM | link to this | reply

Of course it has moved on in 200 years
Like you I don't have any empirical research to quote the precise differences but even the last 40 years or 30 or 20 or 10 you can see the differences.  Unless the changes in the last 40 years have in effect moved back to the way it was 200 years ago then it's clearly different.

Most of what we learned in public schools in the 1960s as, as you said in your post, teachers disseminating information and students receiving the data.  Memorize the times tables, memorize the theorems in geometry, memorize the state capitals, etc etc.

Today kids learn in a variety of different ways and the teacher lecture, while still used, is only one of the many tools used. 

I'm not saying that there isn't some more movement needed - there's a long way to go but it's certainly different than it used to be.

There are some big problems in the educational system in the US but that's a different discussion.

posted by Omni on February 3, 2006 at 12:04 PM | link to this | reply

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