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that's an interesting stance
By the way, isn't that guy married to Michelle Phifer or something like that?
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zoke
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April 19, 2006
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This is true. The media appears to have been weakened or is just not interested in covering the war as much as they did in the beginning. Perhaps viewers are the ones who are not interested and the ratings would drop? I don't know. There doesn't seem to be the same sort of passion about as there was in the days of Vietnam. Society is more concentrated on the individual.
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Ca88andra
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November 5, 2005
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Hollee,
This was well said, both the post and the closing statement in Boston Legal, which we watched. Usually, I'm not a sucker for tv, but I agree with everything that James Spader said, it's just too bad that it's an actor reading lines in a script. The comments here are informative as well, there seems to be some disagreement about the degree of preparedness of the current troops.
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Blanche.
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November 5, 2005
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CCW--I agree--the media is partially responsible.
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Hollee
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November 5, 2005
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Thanks Wiley.
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Hollee
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November 5, 2005
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Thanks for stopping by Scoop.
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Hollee
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November 5, 2005
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I think the problem is
that the media doesn't have the "oompf" to it that it had during VietNam. They've severely limited their coverage and we're not hearing about things as much anymore. Obviously this is working to the advantage of the people who are in responsible for us having a war in Iraq to begin with.
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AlienInsomniac
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November 4, 2005
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Hollee
Well, I'm sorry for all those young men and it is good to read you again luv.
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WileyJohn
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November 4, 2005
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I am sorry I missed this but I agree, my son is in the Army reserves and
has been since 1998. He went to Iraq in the first wave with nothing, they were not prepared and it is still reported that after two and a half years the equipment is still not up to standards. As far as training, when my son was in Fort Jackson his group was a mix of Army reserves and National Guard. Even though the guard has been to war before I would rather see them left in their own states for emergencies. The Iraq war was not planned out going in, what to do what they got there, and how to get out and I just wonder how much longer the taxpayers will put up with the deaths and the $4 bilion a day.
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scoop
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November 4, 2005
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Thanks Symph.
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Hollee
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November 3, 2005
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Symphony came by to read you.. |
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_Symphony_
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November 3, 2005
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Temple, mystic, and MilitaryWife, thanks for all your comments. One
community here in southern Ohio has the largest number of National Guardsmen stationed in Iraq. They still report a problem with protective gear being outdated or having to be funded by their families or other volunteers who've raised money for this.
That very important issue aside--it is imperative that we don't sugar-coat or propagandize this war--our children are dying over there--no clear plan for their removal is intact--and more will die before we see an end to this. I am a child of the Vietnam era--Until I was ten, I thought everyone died by being shot--it seems ludicrous now, but the mind of a child is logical in its own right--what they see is what we believe to be true. I support our troops--God bless them all--but for God's sake, bring them home--this is not our war.
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Hollee
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November 3, 2005
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MW, yes, I had heard of some improvements, too...
But just recently I had heard it was still happening. My point was only that our government doesn't take care of our troops like they should. I'm glad others do fill in. :)
** previous comment, that spelling was families (I hate my spelling)
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Temple
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November 2, 2005
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Temple
By no means am I implying that this hasn't happened...what I was saying is that from what I know it's not like it was before. There was a time not that long ago that this was a serious problem. There are many flaws in the treatment of troops, I am the first to agree with that.
This past year due to some of the public outcry over protective gear, most do now have it. I can not speak for every single person, but given I am involved with a non-profit that was formed to assist the troops, we do try to be aware of the needs.
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Bel_
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November 2, 2005
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MW, as much as it pains me to agree with mystic on this point, I do...
...in part... I know of family's that have had to pay for their son's body armor and the vehicles have been rigged with sheet metal to become "armoured." Not all units have the equipment they need....I'm not sure how, but when I was trying to find out what to send to my ex over there a year and a half ago, I talked to all sorts of family members in online forums who had to pay for body armour and new boots because the military didn't. They complained about the other lack of equipment also. My experience with others was different, they and their units had everything they needed. It seems to be hit and miss.
Hollee....that was a perfect point in that closing. Our news about the war is so sanitized now. That's because they don't want the reaction they got from Vietnam, so they don't show it. I'm glad support is waning, but we still can't just leave without finishing what we started. I just don't believe we should have ever been there in the first place.
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Temple
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November 2, 2005
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Uninformed?
Interesting...given I made a point of asking those that are there now because I would have gone out and raised funds to be sure they had them if that was what was needed. Care packages are a completely different story...that had nothing to do with safety gear. As I stated before, this was an issue in the past...once again, FW you read only the parts you WANT to read.
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Bel_
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November 2, 2005
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Military Wife is Unimformed ....
A buddy of mine just returned from Iraq, and he survived on the Care Packages we sent him of boots, socks, razors, sunglasses, toothpaste, flack jackets; all the little things we would expect soldiers to have. He's in the National Guard, and he said his military vehicle was antiquated and obsolete.
The lack of outrage can be laid directly at the alter of the 4th Estate. The in-bed-with journalists, the anonymous sources that parrot the administration line, etc. etc. Makes me glad I'm no longer in journalism. I never di have much respect for PR flacks.
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fwmystic
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November 2, 2005
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Your post
raised important questions.
posted by
babe_rocks
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November 2, 2005
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Hollee
It was a nice speech, but in reality NOBODY gets to "try out" any branch of the military. I have a tough time understanding how anyone can look at the mass number of Guardsmen in Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan and think that for one minute that they won't end up there. The majority of troops in Iraq are made up of National Guard and Reserves.
As for the equipment, this was an issue in the beginning and for some it may still be an issue but overall most have all the eqipment that they are supposed to have including body armor. The number of troops where my husband is currently posted is a thousand and nobody is allowed to wander post without their flack vest right now. EVERYONE has one.
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Bel_
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November 2, 2005
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