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Oy but my head is swimming.

But great-great-great? Oh there's plenty of other genetic material there water things down.  I once dated my second cousin and although I was a little unnerved by the close connection, no one else seemed to think it was a problem.

posted by JanesOpinion on November 1, 2005 at 6:45 PM | link to this | reply

It Can Certainly...

...do yer head in!

Thanks for commenting.

D

posted by DamonLeigh on November 1, 2005 at 9:50 AM | link to this | reply

I gave up trying to follow that

but I certainly wasn't bored!

posted by jollyjeff on November 1, 2005 at 9:12 AM | link to this | reply

Ca88andra...

...I once dated a girl who was a mum of two boys and separated from her husband.

They were separated because he used to beat her up, and even put her in hospital once.

He'd been married once before.

To my girlfriends best friend.

And he used to beat her up, too.

What the hell was that all about??

Thanks for reading.

D x

posted by DamonLeigh on November 1, 2005 at 5:40 AM | link to this | reply

babe_rocks...

..phew! Now I'm confused. I'll have to read that one a few times before it goes in, methinks.

Anyway, many thanks for a fascinating contribution. This is opening up a whole can of worms here - in the niceset possible sense!

D

posted by DamonLeigh on November 1, 2005 at 5:38 AM | link to this | reply

Whacky46...

...well, what can I say?

D

posted by DamonLeigh on November 1, 2005 at 5:37 AM | link to this | reply

saul...

..thatnks for that thought-provoking comment! It's a shame about the couple in your story breaking it off. I believe it's legal for first cousins to marry here in the UK, though inadvisable for them to have children. I guess that's where Tennessee went wrong. (Ducks behind haysyack to avoid the volleys of buckshot!)

It is indicative, as you say, of the way families don't actually always move that far away over generations, making it almost inevitable that there'll be some crossover eventually.

I wonder how it works in Korea and Iceland, where marrying beyond the race has long seen to be a Bad Thing, making them some of the most racially pure places on earth. Indeed, Iceland has long been treasured by the genetic science industry as they have such a uniquely pure gene pool.

(Incidentally, I've never thought "Relative" to be an Italian surname!)

Cheers!

D

posted by DamonLeigh on November 1, 2005 at 5:36 AM | link to this | reply

Military Wife...

...it does have that feel to it somewhat.

Thanks for reading.

D

posted by DamonLeigh on November 1, 2005 at 5:31 AM | link to this | reply

OK, I got lost following that. The dating of exs does happen in groups though. I know people who have swapped dates and even spouses over time. Weird.

posted by Ca88andra on November 1, 2005 at 2:41 AM | link to this | reply

Oh

I thought the tangle in my family tree was difficult but it's easy compared to that one. My great grandmother Lovisa was born in Norway but came to the US as a small child where her mother married a man named Stordahl and had a big family of girls and one boy named John. In the meantime her biological father in Norway married and had a big family including a boy named John, who ended up marrying Lovisa's American half sister named Jensine. Everybody thought it was a disgrace.

posted by babe_rocks on October 31, 2005 at 5:00 PM | link to this | reply

that's well...just eck!

posted by Whacky on October 31, 2005 at 1:29 PM | link to this | reply

Just shows we're all connected at some point, my good man. One of my first

cousins dated a boy in high school with the same last name as our paternal grandfather's.  It was thought that there was no connection, at least here in America, since the name is Italian and possibly was generated from a city or region back in the old country.  However, upon closer inspection, they found out they shared a common foreperson.  The young man's great-great-aunt turned out to be my cousin's (and mine also) great-great-grandmother, making them cousin so many times removed or something like that.  Still, no matter how much they enjoyed one another's company, the taboo on marrying cousins being what it is where we're from, they broke off their relationship but remained friends.

But your little soap opera also goes to show how we tend to stay within a limited network in our relationships, which flows backward in time, through the branches of family trees, where most of our forebears did exactly the same thing.  And, remember, it isn't socially anathema to marry kinfolk in some cultures, nor was it in most cultures the further you go back in time, mostly because of isolation and limited traveling/moving options.

posted by saul_relative on October 31, 2005 at 11:03 AM | link to this | reply

Oh that is just creepy!!!

posted by Bel_ on October 31, 2005 at 8:58 AM | link to this | reply

Well...

...as I said, Pam has been slagging her ex for years to anyone who would listen, and that includes her best friend, Jill! So I've no clue where either of their heads are at, to be honest!

Thanks for reading, oh foggy one!

D

posted by DamonLeigh on October 31, 2005 at 7:12 AM | link to this | reply

So Graham and Pam are cousins, to some degree?

Wow, head spinning and odd situations Damon. Even stranger, as you say, that Pam wouldn't warn Jill away from her ex. Unless her negative feelings for him have weakened.

Interesting musings to wake up my foggy brain this morning.

posted by katray4 on October 31, 2005 at 5:31 AM | link to this | reply